I don't dab, I .deb!

I hate it when I can't install & update a package through apt, instead it keeps bugging me to manually download the latest deb file every time it boots.

1.)
I either get way better in math, or find a good opportunity to drop out of college. Both would be equally good.

2.)
Nvidia dies the cruel death it deserves.

3.)
All DEB and RPM package-managers, get replaced by pacman.

The power of Linux in math

So been working with Linux for almost 10 years now, so am not new with this. But yesterday, a friend had difficulties accessing Wikipedia and their sister sites so I tried to help him out, you know, the usual way. Ping, Direct IP, DNS, and proxies/VPN, checking his /etc/hosts, but to no avail. Decided to download TeamViewer and install it so that I can help him out remotely. Went afk for 30min for dinner and when I came back, TeamViewer installation .Deb installer literally uninstalled every single software from my Kubuntu machine, from Spotify and slowly even my file manager and terminal was uninstalled. When it was over, even my grub was uninstalled.

Had anyone faced the same issue before?

[linux distro stuff]
Hey guys!
Im considerig switching to linux because:

My macbook does not support mojave and the new ones are expensive af.

Windows 10 is bloated and not a great user experience(removing stuff from the control panel and adding it to the very stripped down settings app, privacy etc..).

I love open source software

However i did not used linux for a long time, back then i used ubuntu and SUSE.

My considerations:
Debian - because .deb on them haters
OpenSUSE - because i used it in the past and it seemed very stable and fast
Arch - i heard from a lot of sources that it’s “da best”

My use case is game development and 3D modeling. I use gimp, blender vscode and unity (the game engine) at work i sometimes use autodesk stuff (motionbuilder, 3ds max) because of fbx.
For audio stuff i use audacity

So overall i’m looking for a distro that is fast, lightweight, i can develop on it (mostly 3D stuff) and occasionally play some games

Anyone has experience with the mentioned distros? What distro would you use for this?

I had to build a few packages today from a git source.

Everything just plain text or shell scripts - so no fancy shit, no buildsystem... Nothing.

I was painfully reminded why I had forgotten a lot about dpkg package builds.

Fun facts:
- seems like impossibro to define an output directory for debuild (../ from source which must be pwd/cwd)
- i used /opt/<vendor_name>... Purging the deb from system deletes opt too, as it is empty
- reprepro (or whateva it is called) fails with an "uncommon GPG error" instead of saying "I don't know which key to use"
- creating rolling release numbers (as the packages won't have a real versioning system...) is fun - when you remember that date isn't sufficient, as the time part is necessary to build multiple packages (versions) per day

Compared to an Gentoo ebuild, this was really rocket science....

Guess as soon as someone does not follow the debian way, he must be shunned and exiled. At least it felt like this ....

But it works now. Woohoo. *cries internally*

Linux is great - to tinker, to pull in all your FOSS, mess around...
But it's so fucked up, if you actually build and maintain a product on it, i.e. try to distribute s.th. in binary for money even. It's just not intended. If you offer your code for free, you can always say: "Ah, just compile it yourself. You might need these 29 dependencies, of which 2 are not even checked by configure, oops, and now it crashes, maybe in that qt library version, you picked there's still a bug?.. you know, it worked on my machine, sorry."
But if you sell it, it better install and run! And even if you target only the main distros of all that fragmented Linuverse - let's say, Debian, Ubuntu, RHEL, CentOS, Fedora, and if you're in Germany OpenSuSE and SLES, you'll start to see the crap of work you're up with. What you could try is to orchestrate a docker fleet with one container per distro, where you take the oldest version you still support compile a newer gcc there (to at least have C++11) and all your third party libs and then hope the resulting binary runs on all the newer versions of that distro, too.
(You could even be so brave as to try to pick a deb and rpm distro to build for all other distros.)
But ABI incompatibility can still bite you. For instance we once had the insane case, that our GUI would no longer start just by switching the Window-Manager to KDE.

I should've tried Mint sooner the first distro that has just worked out of the box for me.

Easy to install deb packages the ui looks good built in dark theme. If it runs as well on my desktop as it is on my laptop I think I'll have a distro for life.

Installing a deb file on Manjaro. 😐

Tried Docker...over complicated
Tried dpkg... dependencies nonexistent in manjaro.

Snap packages?
Appimages?

So I just downloaded devRantron and it's great, it was so easy to install with the .deb file, the website for getting it looked very proffesional and the program itself also look very clean and overall proffesional. The only thing I wish they could have made would be for the boxes containg the rants to be wider, but overall it's amazing!

Bought fucking nvidia gpu to test speed of some fucking machine learning models that generate speech.

6 hours wasted already for installing fucking dependencies
cuda, fucking tensorflow gpu, bezel and other shit

Fucking resetting password to download deb with cudnn,

really ??????? fucking emails are not delivered to my fucking mailbox

After mass click of send email and multiple account ban and unban I figured out I should login to nvidia website and then allow access to fucking developer every time I want to log in there - fuck shit

Uninstalling everything now looking for fucking compatible versions between software.

10 years in this business still fucking installation of dependencies is most difficult part

Fucking corporate business and their shitty installation instructions to fuck up peoples lives and switch them to the cloud.

Same was with fucking kubernetes

Fucking software dependency hell

It’s worse then ever before.

Fuck ....

Updates! (( ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ ))

Why do they break things..

After updating my system my VMs suddenly stopped working, all of them. They didn't crash or anthing but became unsuable, stuff like force logouts..

Almost lost it, but thankfully there was a difference in the snap version and the deb package..

At first that also didn't want to work, but it was just that the snap wasn't completely removed so it had some problems..

Now thankfully it *seems* to work again.
( ´꒳` )

I spent about an hour today working on getting an arduino board working before discovering that my IDE wasn't the latest version. In fact, it was outdated by several years.
Why are the apt caches so old? I keep my machine updated constantly but what's the point if it's locked at an old package forcing me to circumvent apt in the first place?

A colleague of mine has built a kernel module that is part of our system. He wrote it for Linux 4.4 but in the meantime our servers got updated to 4.15. The kernel API changed from 4.4 to 4.15 so the module does not build anymore. He said he will update it, but in the mean time I figured it would be easiest to just use 4.4 in the meantime. I downloaded the kernel deb package and installed it. Now, after reboot I can't ssh into the machine any more. I just started this project and I'm already tired of it. Every time I fix something a new issue appears. And I did not even start what I am supposed to do

Devrantron leads to a deb in the AUR? makepkg isn't handling it, and it litterally just tosses me an error saying "file format not recognized"

Linux mint? How good is it? I use Fedora, need to give a try to a deb distro, Ubuntu?

>decided trying to update my Neovim plugins
>Telescope.nvim no longer works, apparently it needs Neovim 0.9.0 now, only have 0.8.3
>decide to re-run the script which I've built that takes care of setting up neovim including plugins and whatnot, only updating the version part in the URL
>the URL was for a .deb package... apparently .deb packages are no longer available or something, at least for newer versions

I'm going to have to use VS Code, am I not?

WSL GUI... WHY?!?!
I have an assistant(no better defined title) in Myanmar who we've ruined from ever being a "normal" 21yr old Burmese kid again... First non-android computer experience was remote access to our local RHEL server; He's gonna be a dev... being a blank slate, started him primarily on CLI.

Yesterday he tells me wsl stopped working and he can't figure out why. I ofc asked what the last thing(s) he did was... simple wget. I tunnel in, check processes... one of the catch-all wsl ones had hulked out.

Despite very limited abilty to trace whatever was going on, I found what I thought may be responsible. Quickest way to know, kill it...

Whatever will we do without GUI for wsl debian?!?!?

Seriously... the wsl Deb culled things like systemd for simplicity... but arrives loaded with numerous GUI functionalities. I reeeeeallly want to know what advanced practical applications are coming from this

Question about stacks: I've got a .deb file that I can't install on Manjaro. I can't use dpkg because the dependencies are nonexistent in manjaro's repositories. Should I look for a way to install with dpkg or should I learn docker?

My university's IT department can't even install debuggers on the computers, so if we're on linux and need to debug something, we need to save the code to an usb stick, reboot to windows, boot a VM and install valgrind there (or manually install the needed .deb files, which ends up being even more of a hassle than just rebooting)

Update on the HP Stream tablet:

I finally realized that I could have a microSD card in the device with the Onboard package on it to install on a LiveUSB in order to install anything.

Due to another 'ranter's suggestion, I started with all the Debian spins, but none of them had a graphical .deb package installer (which is really strange).

I finally went back to Ubuntu MATE, which does have the Onboard application already installed (which I'm not sure why I didn't notice that the first time), and it's now officially installing...

More updates at 11.

Which method do you prefer: installing softwares via apt-get install or .deb packages?

My colleague disagreed with me when I choose apt-get install over downloading the .deb package. Later on it turned out the package on the ppa was outdated and didn't include systemd init scripts. I purged the package and installed the .deb provided in its website.

Worked like charm.

He had a good laugh.