Found this on a leading Indian job portal. What were they thinking?!

@linuxxx when I have bad experiences with male coders, I don't condemn the whole gender

What's the usual monthly income you aim for as a dev in India?

@dustypaws Around ₹50,000 is good.

Ah okay, was put of by the payment figure in the job ad. That's not very much if you convert it to Euros but then again, you have different monthly living costs in India, I guess 😊

4 yrs exp and 3lpa? Wtf 😓

@1989 I am not enraged. I am like ‘The Dude’ in The Big Lebowski. It’s just that they can always specify their requirements in the description. Gender itself shouldn’t be a filter. And I know plenty women who do full time night shift jobs.

why is it so terribly easy to butthurt people nowadays whenever anything is about gender? Is it illegal to have specific requirements for an employee you want to hire?

@1989 I did work for a starting salary of 3lpa in a small startup when I had 0 exp and I can say 4lpa starting salary for a guy with 4yr of exp is prty much low.

@1989 not only politically, if your interested check out what we Germans did to our language starting roughly in the '90s in the name of gender equality. It was stupid and unnecessary. 🙄

Not saying that in other parts of the world some more equality wouldn't hurt. 😄

@1989 its sad to hear mate. Maybe because of the growing number of IT professionals, people even take the unfair packages.

@1989 true 😂 I have few of my friends who are from Civil engineering and Mechanical engineering working in IT industry.

@NoMad Women can do night shifts but the situation here is different. Its not safe for women at night here. Am not saying it not at all safe but incidents happened here makes me say so especially the one mentioned.

That they don't want to hire an HR rep or do workplace harrassment training?

@NoMad it's a very different story out there. From a business perspective I totally agree that it is cheaper and better for the company's rep to hire a dude but on a moral level I agree with you.

@NoMad 😂😂😂 lol

@plusgut Fair point but I personally don't think this is sexist

@ThatDude https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

... no kidding...

@1989 I do agree with you on every comment.

@NoMad I do have the same moral beliefs as you but change takes time. From my personal perspective my sister had a joke in multinational company and they had to provide pick up and drop facility (for night shift).
As @1989 said earlier, if I'm running a small company my priority would be minimizing my expenses as much as possible. Don't take it the wrong way though.

@NoMad maybe a third gender is equally good at coding AND css... I suck at design... 😂

@1989
Well you sure as hell defended it with your life.

@NoMad except that men carry their primary sexually organs on the outside... *cough* 😂

And we have to shave our faces... 😞

@1989 Understood. No hard feelings

On that note.... Rant derailed! 😂👍

Female mobile response security officer wanted. 3 days ago.
goo.gl/kGFii9

And this is not India. This is in London!

@NoMad I know, I'm just trying to not be too serious about it. 😊

Well congrats all, the comment section here shows how the media has brain washed everyone and how decvided people are. You all fell for it and slowly the media is weakening our societies with these fake outrages and identity politics.
This is real world, real life, it is not fair, it is crude and not everyone is nice, not everyone is gonna agree with ya. This is normal, learn to be tolerant of other opinions and just for the love of god ignore what the media tells you... You will be happier.

@NoMad AHA! See *that* is sexist behaviour! In both examples no context is given about *why* there is a gender specification. However, there is a tendency to justify situations where women are favoured much easier than situations where men are favoured. The point is I can't really know the background surrounding the decision based on a title alone and am not willing to jump to conclusions with such little amount of information provided.

@simulate

Yes, actually. At least in the United States.

If the job is not directly related to a specific gender (i.e modeling, tampons, etc..) it is illegal to restrict the job to a specific gender. The same goes for women, transgenders, etc..

This could result in a lawsuit ending the company as a whole.

I get that this is not an American company, though.

@simulate in all the Western countries yes, it's illegal.
It's as illegal as saying "no nigga"

I never heard that word referred to a no black person, but I don't even live in a English speaking country, so I can't say that for sure.

Anyways, what I meant is, what if there's a job offer that is explicitly not for black people? What if a job offer says "we don't want Democratics, we only want Republicans" or the opposite? What if I hire only women with big boobs and I write this in my announcement?

In Western countries, to prevent idiot to have too much freedom, all these things are illegal. I meant this.

It's not about politically correct, it's about sexism

@Nanos if they had evidences then they could sue him

Wtf? Shouldnt matter if the candidate is male or female. No excuses. Also not okay the other way around.

In this thread; a whole bunch of westerners try to bring *better* values to an eastern culture that is completely different than their own.

As a westerner whos travelled a bit, I think y'all are trying to change the wrong thing. Stop trying to over simplify shit for no reason.

😲😲😲😲

@D--M love your choice of smiley at the end! 😬

There is one thing that should be noted though. In a PRIVATELY held company, the ones holding the company should have the absolute say about what are the criteria with which to hire someone. The criteria can be anything. They can be according to gender. Maybe according to religion. Maybe one wants to hire only people who wear hats. Maybe they want to hire people who say good jokes. Who have big noses. They may pick whom to hire according to who is the worst for the job. They might hire a relative of theirs. They should have the right to do it, and nobody has the right to interfere. Maybe if the criteria contradict the commonly acceptable ones, people will boycott the company and other companies refuse to work with them. Or maybe the employees stop working as per their own personal will. That's in their rights, respectively. A private company is not publicly run, it does not owe anyone a hire and does not owe anyone to implement hiring criteria the are in any way fair.

Or maybe they have all male team.
Or maybe they have to consider certain matters when they hire female.
Or ..
or ..
or ..

it is hard to judge from just an ad alone, really.

@insanealec frankly when running business, I would want zero drama or unnecessary issues to solve rather than increasing sale and profit.

The ad writer or the company itself may intentionally write this with gender bias intent or not. Do we know? I am not even considering about India and their circumstances there.

Let's say if we live in a perfect world with no sexism, no gender bias, no rape cases.. will this kind of ad still be an issue?

@insanealec we don't know. And that's my whole point. We are trying to judge based on an ad, a word, a country.

I think that people just need to acknowledge that women and men are different physically and mentally. Some jobs would be better fit for a man than a woman and maybe this business is a secret male strip club after hours. 😂

Jokes aside though im sure there is a very sure that there is a very valid reason why they want a male employee as maybe they have too many female employees or its a failing company and they don't want to risk you going on mat leave.

If it said, female only, no1 would complain and would even be called "empowerment".

@diomonogatari I would have complained.

@plusgut but would've you complained because it was unfair or to prove a point that 3rd wave feminism is retarded and cancerous?

@diomonogatari I hope from myself, that I would react because i think it would be unfair.

That’s one of the pathetic companies in India and there are a whole bunch of them here. Look at the salary they are offering, it’s a clean bowl of dicks with flowers.

Also, they want a male so that they can make him work like a mule while he watches those flowers blossom.

Only female

https://naukri.com/job-listings-Tel...

Came here with popcorn. Not disappointed at all.

@NoMad
To be fair, i prefer secretaries and PAs to be female.

I only say this because at my work place, they are actually actively making the culture and environment fun and awesome. I doubt I'd get that with a guy.

@NoMad
What I'm getting at is that it isn't black or white. Scenarios are not created equally. If you try to trivialise it with its either sexist or its not, you run the risk of making things much worse then how they are.

India is not safe for women. If you read the statistics.

**chomps away at large popcorn handfull**

What if the company is in a location in which women get assaulted (in any way, not only sexually but mostly sexually) and the company is trying to protect applicants?

**keeps eating popcorn**

@Nanos do i get to sue if i get a broken tooth?

@NoMad i have been sexually harrassed by women. As messed up as it was it is no near the level of agressive as men do on women. Unless a company is located in a place where a gay motorcycle gang targets men I would say that the odds will always be against women. But this is a very particular scenario indeed.

**passes popcorn back to @NoMad**

Btw i am not disagreeing with u, it is sexist.

@1989 Then you put it as a job requirement that you must be happy to work through the night - not exclude a whole gender *facepalm*