At times I agree

fb still uses it

@vivek7 Not in the way you think they do.

@jirehstudios yeah u r right ..

@jirehstudios I'm new to php, mind explaining?

@troopy712139 i dnt knw abt PHP , but fb has developed HIVE which is similar to SQL.ty might have modified PHP to make it more secure

@troopy712139 http://cuelogic.com/blog/...

Todays PHP is not the same PHP from the old days.
we have standards like PSR. top frameworks like Symfony, composer etc. and PHP 7 is awesome.

2016 PHP is not wordpress :)

Modern PHP with a good framework like Laravel is an absolute joy.

@octocat1893 Symfony and Laravel are really cool.

Back when I was starting development I was torn between learning ColdFusion or PHP. Thank God I went with ColdFusion. OOP and ORM makes life so much easier.

@fyroc thats why is important to separate "old php" from "modern php". :)

modern PHP is OOP. and we have good ORMs also like Doctrine.

some people just simply say bad things about PHP because of their old legacy without knowing the current reality.

sure, there are still some "old roots" from that days in the core language but no language is perfect.

I like php, node, go ...
just understand the strenghts and weakness of each and use the best for each project :)

I've been looking to learn php recently, do you guys think is still worth it?

@kodel PHP is always good to at least have basic understanding of it. If you go that route just be aware of the over saturated market

@fyroc yeah, couldn't agree more, job hunting for around 2-3 months in London.. nothing comes out of it (check my prev rants ;D) applied to a few in my mother country waiting for the 3rd interview with 2 pretty exiting companies, which should be scheduled by the end of the week.

All people who know bits of WordPress, joomla, even if it is as little as how to install a template, they title themselves as PHP developers and they drop breadcrumbs to students/unemployed devs that have a slight idea what they are doing to customize the template and eventually fuck up a plugin for a tenth of a buck, hence the crap with back end jobs require jquery, HTML and CSS :/ (personal experience so far..) fuck em... even agency advertising for a startup is looking for experienced wp developers... /too-ranty-for-ya 😁

PHP Developer !== WordPress Developer

@kodel it pays my bills. while it's not the sexy young thing any more, it is a strong intelligent women that works hard and does well.

Normally I'd say, "Objection!", but in this case something tells me to say, "Injection"...

This made me laugh hysterically :D

Can PHP do OOP, with a MVC framework and use ORM?

@fyroc yep, from a while now..