When your technical colleagues apply or pressure you to make fixes or implement features w/o understanding how abd why they work. When they discard your proposals/alternatives as inferior, motivating with their superficial knowledge arguments. When they promote new toys over tried and true ones, only because they work using other new technologies and they do stuff automatically, w/o having to think why/how, hoping it'll never fail.

And when it all starts erroring -- turn to @netikras asking to fix the tools I ruled from the beginning as "black boxes of unknown evil"

aren't they the best... :)

is there no longer place for highly technical nerds understanding all the bolts and nuts of big and small tools/systems/solutions..,?

Sounds like job security to me though

sounds like a lack of respect

@jestdotty nah, that's a bit too harsh I think. I'm sure that neti is a respected dev.

People have to put more value on stuff that's older and thus matured and worked. Many software is purely upgraded for the sake of being modern only to add new issues and not thinking about the stuff that currently works good.

Same for Rust people towards C. Saying C is "old". Sure, but it's matured and proven. The memory issues are your own problem and is mainly dev based. They're working full time in a stable as F system written in that language they claim to be unsafe. Sure, for much things, Rust is a better choice, but it's such a weird language. Why not use C# instead then. Why to from a-lot-of-work to that weird language? So many other options exist that aren't weird. Point is, the main reason for a lot to move on and learn this TERRIBLE language being system x is old, oh no. And regarding stdlib, real devs write their own if they have the time. My c lib contains many high level features.

@retoor respect would be they'd consider what you're saying and could at least have that conversation instead of dismissing you. also they would take responsibility for having to have you clean up their mess and be ashamed to have had to ask you to do that and take you more into account next time

people here are more nihilistic than problem solving I think though. that's when you accept your place and just grumble about it and internalize it / outburst blame others. downgrades the whole field I think

I've seen workplaces do all sorts of dumb shit just because some charismatic and "respected" person said so. even if such things repeatedly fall apart. people don't seem to realize what the concept means or that they're even following it when they're making such decisions

and being around all those fancy financial makers and dealers those guys are making emotional decisions just the same. don't let the numbers and buzzwords fool ya, those are comfort Teddy bears

@jestdotty I did understand what you mean but it's just possible to be so enthousiast about some new tech that it's possible to chose the tech above someone's advise without directly not having respect for him. It's not per definition unrespectful to not go with the advise some expert gives. People just want to do what is most fun. It doesn't have to do anything with respect.

@retoor o high driven development

ok well then that's not really a business but a playground so you can't really complain I guess

@jestdotty professionally you often also the things you find the most fun and not only the good. If you would only do what is the best option you're getting bored or burned out. One of them. Ofcourse is your fun important. Else you would be really a slave.

@retoor I mean I was a slave. I was told id get paid later but I wasn't. now I refuse to work

it would probably be fine if I worked again but mentally I can't figure out how that would work. I categorically find it distasteful to code for someone else now. plus I got sick anyway. now I think ima get out of it and regain my brain I guess but I might also be monetarily retired if my prediction skills are any good (which they've always been actually). would be quite a cosmic joke that I got paid minimum wage to build someone their whole company and then was upset about it and then retired being unemployed and having no income. sounds about right for the universe

would be nice to have a house and family now instead of 5-10 years from now though. but I got issuuuessss

I have perverse joy man-splaining technical things to people at work. Sometimes I even throw in the dad voice and ask rhetorical questions. Sometimes I will even inquire if they know what some of the technical terms mean, but start explaining before they can answer. Prompting indignant responses like "I know what that means..."

I am not always a dick, just when people ignore my input then wonder why it doesn't work.