Been reading devRant for a while now and I have to say I'm sad about the way the future of the software engineering looks like. Everyone seems to have a lot of hatred towards certain techniques and/or platforms and sad to say, but you are missing a lot.

I have been in the biz for around 15 years and have worked on Win, Linux, Mac, Unix, Symbian, Embedded etc. using all sorts of tools and languages and I must say it has taught me a lot and given diversity on my career and I hope you could also open your mind and start educating yourselves. Theres a world behind your bubble!

Peace and love!

Wise words.

Don't pay attention. A lot (but not all) of these haters are just newbs (you can tell from the arguments made, if any), who believe that having a strong opinion about a subject makes them look more knowledgeable.

Ex:

"I made a CRUD website using Go, FUCK PHP from now on!"

"Windows updates are the worst, fuck Microsoft *posts screenshot of fresh vanilla Linux Mint before googling how to install Windows back*"

The only tech worth hating are the ones that are popular, despite being worse in every single way compared to their counterparts.

I wish there was something like Reddit gold for devrant. I'd love to give you a free month for your post.

Much respect.

@AndSoWeCode I have also come to similar conclusion. Although, this is what scares me, cause they are the seniors of the future and I don't remember hating anything when I was getting started.

@Jmann But this phenomenom exists in the real life as well, it's just more subtle, cause people with different backgrounds don't collide thst often

@Nato No, I expected respect between developers as a one big community as I think it should be. Theres a lot of things to rant about and still respect the colleagues from the other camps

Mostly agree with you but keep in mind that some people might have their own reasons/arguments for diskliking or 'hating' something.

Since the snowden revelations I'm highly reluctant to use closed source software and closed systems like windows/mac are a no go for me because nobody can independently check them for security vulnerabilities and/or backdoors. I find this highly dangerous in an era of mass surveillance and backdoors being pushed by secret court orders so yeah.

That's just my view but trying to make clear that although my views differ from yours, they're very much educated.

@Senior there weren't that many places online where noobs would try to be cool and impress other devs 15 years ago.

15 years ago for me was the same. Developing meant mastering a programming language, algorithms, etc. But there were people in online communities stroking each other's egos, compiling gentoo and saying that Windows is shit, and all that stuff. One of those guys I am still in contact today. His attitude hasn't changed. He's now a sysadmin with more than a decade of experience, and I would entrust him a server room (not sure if more than that - I don't know him and what he does THAT well, but I know he's well respected in his circles).

There is a future for everyone. And all of the people that worry more about programming than the platform they're on, will probably be very good programmers. And there are a lot of these people.

@AndSoWeCode I hope you are right and the world just looks different nowadays. I know there is a lot of people like me, who just want to get the job done using the tools necessary, but i feel like the other group has become louder and larger and i feel sorry for and behalf of them.

@linuxxx Well argumented and reasoned dislikes have their place if the arguments are provided like you did. Although, I must ask, why you didn't report the Struts 2 issue, Heartbleed or Shellshock when you were code-browsing ;) Jokes aside, what if your boss gives you a .Net application, you should extend, would you decline ?

@Senior I'm not a programmer professionally :)

I finished my programming studies and became a Linux server/support engineer!

But yeah I'd decline. Mostly for the reason that I'd never get myself hired as a dot Net dev, I'd go for PHP or Node.

@linuxxx Ok, what I was trying to say is that working with different languages, techniques and platforms gives you a lot more than living in your php/node bubble.

At my previous job I was sort of a swiss-army knife. I coded with .Net, Java, Php, Js (Angular, Node...) and even occational C. I also was the DbAdmin in MsSql, MySql and Db2 and administered our Win and Linux servers. That was actually huge fun. Now I'm sort of a lead architect/CTO in a multiplatform company and I am loving it.

@Senior Oh I agree with the fact (it's a fact, no denying that one) that knowing loads of languages etc gives you more loving and also job chances.

I'd do it if it was my only way out but except for that, I've got certain ethics.

I worked in a distribution center lifting 20-40kg boxes the entire day for two+ months because I couldn't find a suitable job but that was fine enough with me :)