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Lenovo IdeaPad Y700 (and possibly (m)any other NVidia GPU laptops)

framerate fluctuations in any game - runs silky smooth for few minutes, then drops to borderline unplayable framerates for a few minutes.

Thousands of people across dozens, maybe hundreds of internet forums having this problem for years, since the thing was released.

I personally lost at least 20 hours trying to solve it, and had the laptop in gaming-unusable state because of it for the past half a year.

...yesterday I FOUND A SOLUTION!
1. Download NVidia Inspector by Orbmu2k
(some hobbyist hacker type)

2. use its "profile inspector" to flip an internal setting in nvidia driver.

3. flip "Enable application for Optimus" to SHIM_RENDERING_MODE_ENABLE to basically tell the "Optimus" crap to fuck off.
(not sure why the value is called this, because it's clearly disabling the thing)

4. the thing works flawlessly silky smooth again.

...thousands of people across dozens, maybe hundreds of forums...
...i could be their Lord and Savior...
...if only I weren't too lazy to hike across all of them and register just to post the solution.
(tech forums really should have some "I HAVE A SOLUTION but if i have to register I won't bother")

also...
WHY
DO
WE
KEEP
LETTING
HW
MANUFACTURERS
WRITE
SOFTWARE?!?

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  • 1
    Write to some tech news sites, maybe they are interested to pick it up if it really affects so many users
    Generally I think big ass gpus in laptops will always make problems one way or the other. Most sleek designs can't get rid of the heat efficiently and those who do are bulky as fuck
    If you want both you gonna pay for it
  • 2
    Speaking of designs.. WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS? LMAO
  • 0
    okay, fuuu...

    it's not that easy.

    it worked without issues yesterday, but today, with yesterday's settings it's doing nonsense again.

    tried to play around with other settings, and they seem to not do anything, really, today...
  • 0
    @Kimmax speaking of designs, this is BEAUTIFUL AS FUCK ;)

    for some reason it looks retarded on that picture, but it's awesome IRL
  • 1
    @Midnigh-shcode before you keep playing around, check if it's indeed something being throttled down
    Thermal throttling is no jokes on laptops
  • 0
    oh wow.

    so... for some reason, apparently, opening task manager and keeping it running magically fixes things and all the hidden settings on the driver again do what they are supposed to...

    NVidia - good hardware utterly crippled by supernaturally shitty software
  • 0
    @Kimmax i'm keeping my eye on the temperature all the time, having the fan in manual overdrive most of the time. hovers around 55C when idle, goes up to 88-93C when working, which is less than ideal, i know, but throttles out there, never goes higher, and performance is not a problem even then, well... when I manage to convince the drivers to work properly.

    part of the problem is my crap setup, the laptop sits on 2cm of books on a cushioned office chair next to my bed, so... yeah, i know... :/

    gonna get a cooling pad at the end of this week
  • 0
    @Kimmax the airflow is good, but the paper soaks up heat quickly and then reflects it back up to the pc.

    ...but sitting at a table just because of the thermal properties of its wood is so uncomfortable :/
  • 0
    @Midnigh-shcode 93 is waaaaay to high. Either the cpu or gpu will hit tcc (even if just for a fraction of a second) and under-voltage rapidly. For CPUs that should be send to event log (Kernel-Power messages), but who knows..
    I'd recommend getting an external cooler to put your laptop on, it'll supply fresh cool air from the bottom and helps moving the hot air away
    Something like that:
    https://amazon.de/KLIM-Cyclone-Lapt...

    Especially the fact that it always happens more or less around the 20 minute mark speaks for thermal throttling, since it'll take some time to build up enough heat to trigger the thermal protections
    You could test it with some kind of stress test and keep an eye on clock speeds
  • 1
    @Kimmax got this loptop for girlfriend as a gift to use for photo editing, she use it for netflix... 1000€ for dust collector.
  • 0
    @andrejus overkill, even for Photoshop and co 😂
    Image manipulation needs a decent cpu and some ram, that's it
    An i3 should almost be sufficient
    I think adobe just started integrating the cpu in lightroom and ps
  • 0
    @Kimmax well, as a IT person I said that to her (even tried convince her going desktop) but the design was the kicker for her :D
  • 0
    @Kimmax not an overkill for photoshop.

    since the update about 2 versions ago which made it able to use GPU, so that operations don't take 5 minutes but 5 seconds instead.

    and i suspect video editing softwares are currently following suit.

    been high time.
  • 0
    @Kimmax

    also, as I said, I kept my eye on nvidia inspector graphs, temp, clock speed, usage.

    clock speed doesn't seem affected, the temp just maxes out on 93 celsius, and just stays there, with clock speed still being max...

    ...hasn't been checking the voltage though, I'll try that.

    also, as I said, cooling pad is on the way.

    but since i've got these problems only in summer, you're at least partially right.

    HOWEVER, funny update:

    now it seems all i need to do is open Task Manager, and some magic happens, and everything works as it should.

    not sure if it's because the driver tweaks got saved, but I think I reset all of them back to default settings, and even if not... as I said before, on second day, it was bugging out even with those tweaks... until I opened task manager and kept it running...

    MAGICS!
  • 0
    @Kimmax oh, and it doesn't take 20 minutes for the temp to max out, but like... 5 at most, after launching a game.

    and after exiting it, it takes about 2 or 3 (with fan in the "extra cooling" high rpm mode) to get back to 60, which is the minimum.

    afterwards the sensors shut off, as the nvidia gpu is turned off and completely stops being fed power, I assume.
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