Nvidia makes real time ray tracing and a ehole bunch of graphics stuff beyond our imagination but they can't make a linux driver that actually works well... For ducks sake

Leads me into thinking they probably receive funding from Microsoft to not work on that

@jespersh Pretty much. It's not that they can't, they plain and simply don't care.

I hoped that Valve's increased support of Linux with Steam would have helped improve this situation 😑

tbh nvidia drivers always worked well for me, apart from the time they were pretty fresh. no expert whatsoever, but perhaps it's simpler to develop for a system that doesn't have a million different distros.

@git-gud There are still no good Wayland drivers (nvidia wants their own thing again), in contrast intel and amd have open source drivers, supporting wayland.

nvidia has reasonably good supports to cluster environments, it's just the bloody GTX gaming cards are poorly supported since the gaming and graphics design industries breathe on windows (maybe apple)...

@jespersh @Jilano
"Nvidia doesn't support Linux because they don't care".
They don't, but they should. They are without a doubt the manufacturer of the most powerful GPU's in the world. But, the most optimized platform for anything but games is Linux.. so neural networks, cryptocurrency mining, and whatever else that's simple enough and easily parallelizable to be offloaded to a GPU with hundreds of (rather primitive) cores. Most processes that don't involve gaming do involve Linux. Thusly, Nvidia misses a big chance in the supercomputing market by working the way they do right now. Sure their drivers work.. somehow. On my GTX9800 I haven't experienced any issues with it driving a VGA monitor for my server (which, granted, is a pretty light load that any GPU could do). But hybrids.. those are a pain in the ass. The bumblebee project, it's so promising but Nvidia doesn't support it at all. So everything's pretty much a matter of "illegal reverse engineering". Fuck that. We bought the hardware, it's ours to do whatever the fuck we want with, including reverse engineering and receiving build information about. Or do you license a light bulb from Ikea as being "licensed to a licensee with the ability for the manufacturer to revoke said license at any time" too?!

Tbh I don’t actually thinks it’s that bad. I haven’t used it for gaming or anything like that, but I’ve installed drivers for Nvidia GPUs on a few servers for deep neural networks, and it works just fine

@Condor I couldn't agree more with you, fake-Linux!

I do think that there's a possibility for Nvidia to invest in the Linux market, but not that much thanks to Valve. I'm fairly certain that it'll be more because of some Microsoft fuck ups.
That, or AMD getting some market share there and the Green one wanting to crush the competition.

Who knows!

@Condor i actually thought you were Linux until i read Jilano's comment. damn.

@not-sure

Do you do much CUDA programming for your work? I found the driver really easy to break on linux