alright.

Out of how many employees?

@FrodoSwaggins

its ok to think its ok 👌

I think its ok too.

Sexual harrasment is a crime.
Currently the socially acceptable sexual interractions vary tremendously, in law and in practice, in different workspaces around the world. The laws and rules in the workspace require a long overdue refactor and optimization.

@FrodoSwaggins I agree. It's pretty easy not to sexually harass/assault people. If someone is mad about this, then I for sure don't want to work with them.

But what is sexual harassment in 2018's social climate? Saying hi or giving a compliment is by no means sexual harassment (except when it's coming from a man, according to some.. then it should be punishable by public defamation apparently), making out with people on the workfloor with no good reason other than being horny, yes that should result in getting fired or at the very least a warning. I guess that the real question is "how exactly did these 48 people harass their coworkers?"

Well, at least they fire them... Unlike the catholic church who put them in charge of kindergarten groups.

@FrodoSwaggins I fully realize that. My point is that in today's social climate, things are changing for worse when it comes to this topic. I fully agree on every one of your assessments on which things are sexual harassment and which one aren't, no need to convince me about that. Just saying, context matters. In this worsening social climate when it comes to "social justice" in development especially so.

@FrodoSwaggins And as I stated, I fully understand that difference. As you stated yourself, indeed people have caught onto it more than they should've. That's the current status quo, and that's my concern. Probably Google fired these employees out of legitimate harassment (over which they should've been fired) but in today's social climate, unfortunately one can't be sure.

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@FrodoSwaggins I truly hope so. The contamination of SJW's is spreading into recruiters and HR alike (recruiting based on ticking PC boxes rather than merit, HR being rather stupid to begin with, from what I've heard). I hope that it's safe to assume that Google's HR aren't that stupid. Python and Linux alike have let me down already, so my trust in big tech companies'/projects' staff has already eroded significantly. Will an SJW with a big-ass Twitter account really still be shown the door for accusing someone of "rape" by looking at someone these days? Would you fire someone like Coraline Ada, risking your entire company to be called "rape apologists"? That's the issue that I'm so concerned about. Was this an act of "social justice" or were these firings justified? Unfortunately, there's no way to know without someone from Google telling about it.

@Condor sir

@SukMikeHok my apologies, I'll end it here.. sorry for spamming your thread.

@FrodoSwaggins I honestly wouldn't like posts of my own to end up like this either. For now, I think that it suffices to say that we're on the same line regarding sexual harassment, and possibly diverge on what the punishment for that should be.. though I think we're on equal grounds on that as well. Maybe it's the definition of what's sexual harassment and whether the claims of the likes of Coraline Ada are that.. oh well. This thread really isn't suitable for that sort of lengthy discussions. If you'd like, I'm on Discord as Condor#8113.