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How bout a little less blaming github and a little more blaming the US-governement?
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Voxera116415y@metamourge your right, this is mostly Donald Trumps doing.
And github as an American company, even with Microsoft backing, cannot break the law without risk. -
beleg32005y@metamourge agree. Github is right. But at least this could help no one gets fooled by free private repos and a rainbow on their logo anymore.
They can just publicly announce it: "Github is for the whole open source community, except when we are in compliance with a racist administration." -
So? There was a German company (Rossman) that sold Cuban cigars and allowed payment via Paypal. Paypal told them "no go because US sanctions". Well the company decided to drop Paypal, not the cigars.
The kicker? That was in 2011, under fucking Obama. But yeah sure Trump Trump Trump. You bloody idiots. -
beleg32005yThere is no payment involved, it is a free service, whose users are discriminated based on their geolocation data. And comparing US government interference in two other countries' trade is totally irrelevant here; Microsoft, actually an American company, is losing its users.
Moreover, no body expects a US company/government to respect "free flow of communication and information", If they stop telling BS about it, really
https://youtu.be/MsY8BqwErgY?t=109 -
git-gud14195y@Fast-Nop that comparison doesn't quite hold up.
Firstly, the US-Iran quarrel is most definitely a trump thing. If you were to ask him, he'd be proud of it. i'm not sure how you can compare that to a rivalry that has been going on for decades, and just happened to lead to the rossman incident while obama was in office. and btw, obama took first steps to re-establish communications with cuba, while trump just threw the entire nuclear pact with iran out of the window, so overall it's a horrible comparison.
secondly, there's a difference between losing functionality and losing data. not being able to pay via paypal is a loss of functionality, you can simply switch to other payment methods and call it a day. on github, however, people uploaded their data which is now effectively gone (always do backups, folks) - switching to gitlab will not bring it back. -
@git-gud The US-Iran quarrel started in the 1950s already, just look up history.
Also, devs who think that a non-paying cloud service is a backup are stupid and have to wise up the hard way, as usual with stupidity. -
git-gud14195y@Fast-Nop i know it started in the 50s, but it had just started to calm down when trump happened. the current situation is, history aside, his doing.
as for the rest - yeah, but that's no reason not to complain? -
@git-gud Yeah sure, the British capture an Iranian tanker, the situation escalates when Iran does the same on a British tanker, and of course it's Trump's fault. Reality check anyone?! And the sanctions have been in place also under Obama. No lifting.
And a free service where you have no contract and no payment may be withtaken from you at any moment and for any reason. The complaints of devs who lost their backups like that should go to their own braindeadness. -
git-gud14195y@Fast-Nop tankers? that certainly fueled the fire, yes, but the reason for the situation is the end of the nuclear deal. so much for reality check.
Edit: may i add that that deal was also made under obama? -
@git-gud There is no "civil" nuclear tech simply because it has never been economically viable. If the whole cost had been slapped on the electricity bill instead of hiding most of it as subsidies, this would have been obvious all along. It serves to build up nuclear knowhow, and guess to what end.
But yeah, Trump cancelling the nuclear deal is indeed a valid point, I didn't have that on my mind.
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