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Do you have this culture at the office where your employer (management) try to shame you if you leave at the normal hour? How do you deal with it?

If you work in France I would like to know what's your work schedule, because I'm in a startup and everyone stay there until 18pm.

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    If I'm feeling like it I'll do overtime, otherwise no, I do have other activities to attend
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    To answer your first question, definitely no. Besides, I'm going to write down any overtime and get it back when I can.

    Regarding the second point, I'm working 36h a week. So usually 08:00 - 12:00 and 13:30 - 17:30 (but only Friday morning).
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    Yes I do and I simply stopped caring. They pushed it too far and I could no longer care. People with me have a credit line. Exhaust it and I stop caring. It's not something I do on purpose, it just happens.

    P.s.: I'm not in France but in Italy and when people leave between 6 pm and 7 pm colleagues joke that they are taking half a day of vacation.
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    It's a sign of insecure, ineffective managers that they resort to ad hominem instead impressing upon their employees the importance of a denser number of man-hours, and inspiring the employees to want to stay to meet a goal. But arbitrary enforcement of extended hours, without a specific, explicit, commonly known purpose for doing so is just bullish micromanagement, discouraging a culture of openness and collaboration.

    It's self-destructive. It makes employees ask strangers online what comparable salaries are.
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    I am lucky it's not the case at my current job and it wasn't at the previous one neither. I usually leave at 5pm depending on what I did that day. I work around 7 hours per day.
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    I usually do my hours and then go home unless I'm in the middle of a task that I want to finish off. Since I'm in early as to have some time to work without being disturbed, going home at 3:30PM is normal.

    Nobody gives a fuck as long as shit gets done reasonably.
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    @bahua woah dude,
    Did u just swallow a thesaurus or what!
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    @inhamul

    Ha no. Just using English.
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    @bahua "Look at mister fancy pants, here, using English correctly and shit!"
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    @inhamul Just one thesaurus? All of them dinos man, with lotsa fucked-up barbecue, that's how these crazy Texans do that in Denver, and then some, after exporting B/W TVs to Colorado of course. I bet even his code compiles without warnings, holy shit!
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    @Pickman I know this joke because they do it at the office and I fucking hate it.
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    I work in France, and being a little technical if you have 10 RTT and your contract was made under Syntec, then it means you have to prod 252 days on a normal basis of 7.6h per day (in a company who have less than 500 employees).

    Before 8 am and after 8 pm your employer can't force you to work and should pay you twice your hourly price.

    All that being said I often do 8h so I start at 8 am and leave at 6 pm with a two hours pause to launch.

    Now if they try to make work a lot more, start searching for a new job. Keep track of every mail about overtime and remind them Prud'hommes is still a thing.
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    @jotamontecino Its 7.6h (8h?) or 7h? Because of the 35h per week (7h * 5 days)?
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    @AurumMan79 yes but most "cadres" (White collars) have RTTs, which are given as a compensation for more work hours and a little overtime possible.
    So if it was done weekly it represents 7.6h hours per day with 10 RTT.
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