December 3 2018 - > present

I stopped making websites and therefore am no longer required to keep up with all the fancy trendy js frameworks

What, and leave the job of building end to end systems to the WordPress world?
Blasphemy!

@confusionsays at some point people stopped paying much because of the existance of those wordpress shits. so custom websites are just not worth the trouble anymore

@sleek while that's true, it's the WordPress world that drove the prices down.
Frankly, after my first two end to end sites, I started selling "maintenance" for the setup instead. This way I could filter out the folks who just want "a website" and work with folks who have a vision, and understand that incremental development is the way to achieve such visions.