i want to be a js guy and work for either personal clients or maybe a company, what do i need to focus on javascript? is it more on dom manipulation or math logics? just need an idea what the majority of js devs out there are doing on a day day basis

The majority of js devs from day to day copy and paste code from stack overflow. They definitely do not know math, and sparingly few have a formal engineering background.

There's no one JavaScript path.

Someone could make a career in just React, or just Angular, or just some nodejs backend work or something else entirely, or all of the above and more... and that's sort of the world of coding too.

I knew someone who learned JavaScript....and their first real job started learning C#... and it has been all C# from there out for them.

@N00bPancakes right, do you suggest I should shift my focus on frameworks instead of the usual vanila js?

@SortOfTested ahh i see, i was wondering tho what i should focus on since js is broad.. cheers

@ghosty123 vanilla to start IMO.

There are lots of web dev type classes / tutorials that stat with HTML/CSS, then some js, a little node, then pick your flavor of framework.

But imo the most important thing is to learn what keeps you motivated.

@SortOfTested as someone that has been doing Javascript way tf before Node existed and has been having lots of fun porting models in Deep Learning built in Python and R to Tensorflow.js for basic experiments I will say this.

You are a tad bit off madam GOOD DAY

@AleCx04
You realize the majority of js devs come from bodyshops, right? 😋

@SortOfTested bodyshops?

I'll have you know I was ASE Certified...

@N00bPancakes
The defense rests your honor. 😘

@SortOfTested I SAID GOOD DAY

@AleCx04
Twice! 🥳 Don't base rules on exceptions.

@SortOfTested funny enough, I was a mechanic in the military 🤷

@AleCx04 troubleshooting is troubleshooting.

How come nobody came to enlighten this gentleman informing him that all JS devs are just crying in the corner?

@idkwhattobuy why would they be crying, whats the dark truth behind js devs

@idkwhattobuy well it is 2020...we are all crying in a corner...

@N00bPancakes fair enough

As a general rule, I recommend everyone get acquainted through math in order to understand and obtain better problem solving skills. You can view Computer Science as a whole as a very broken branch of mathematics, because one thing is certain: you only need to know as much math as the job dictates. Are you building drop down menus and making websites interactive with some DOM manipulation? yeah you don't need much math. Are you assisting a firm in building datatables or displaying graphs with three.js or using d3.js? what about those crazy firms that want to make use of tensorflow.js? yeah you better have some mathematical intuition.

Try this, create a basic server API that displays user data, then build a table view of it using datatables.js, now do it manually with no libraries, should give you enough room to experiment how much vanilla JS you want to use.