Please what is so bad about java ? Am i the only one that likes verbosity?

It's not verbosity which is silly. It's the boilerplate which is silly.

@nickhh yeah but setting up an ide correctly can reduce what you have to do with that by a lot

@jonnmmoore you nailed it in the first comment 🤓 you like the verbosity, someone else doesn't

@ste09 exactly. I mainly use C# but tried out Java a while ago and while being a noob at java did not help the thing that realy put me of was that I often had to write 3-4 times the code for simple things.

Overall it does not make a big difference and java 8 probably solves a lot with lambdas.

The verbosity made the code less readable not more.

@Voxera that's more or less the same for me. I work mostly with C# and I like it, but i don't think Java is inferior or superior, just for the syntax or in general because of its conventions or coding styles ☺
Damn we developers, everything can spark a holy war.

It's about memory management and the philosophy behind the language (i.e. exceptions) that make java a bad language..

@ste09 well java's cross plattorm features beats C#'s so far and Java is making strides with new versions.

Andmost of all, without competition development will stall.

And java is not bad, I just prefere C#

@Voxera actually, the cross Platform features offered by .net core are quite impressive (ok, no GUI support but hey, Swing is THE master example of the Java verbosity @jonnmmoore was probably talking about)

@ste09 yes, .net core brings better cross plattform and both java and C# adds more functional features.

The best part is that we as developers win on all accounts :)

I kinda like Java because first code I looked into and wrote was Java.