I brought this up before, but what’s with these claims of getting a job after learning to code for a few months? Can this profession be learned that quickly? Am I just dumb for taking years to get my degrees and land a great paying development job and gaining skills and experience to become proficient? My self esteem takes a huge hit after reading these things but what they leave out is whether these jobs are internships, how much they were paid, where they worked etc.

Sorry, just a little incoherent and cranky bc i slept for just a few hours due to a toothache. I’m not blaming these people at all, I’m just kinda questioning my abilities atm

They're just attempts to create a commodity labour pool for our profession and drive down the last high wage among corporate professions not in management.

We must fight it tooth and nail.

@SortOfTested thanks, that does make sense. Scary though

I will hire someone with no degree, but they have to have obtained the knowledge one way or another. There's no way around that. A decade of study is a decade of study.

I've likewise interviewed some of these "I learnt in to code in a month" guys. They're universally still at the point of "I struggle to copy / paste code from SO and get it to compile, and I have no idea what it really does."

Exceptions are generally from related disciplines like maths who've transitioned to programming after already being very good at the problem solving side of things.

@AlmondSauce yes exactly. In a short period of time you can learn to print hello world, write a basic for loop, code a request from client to server. Not much more than that. If you’re extremely talented that’s different, some people can learn anything in a flash but they rarely exist lol

It's bottom of the barrel replaceables most of the time.

If you're a good recruiter, you can easily figure out their drive based on how much they've jumped in the given period.

It has been very hit-or-miss and most employers still only consider experience as the job selection cutoff.

In the rare instance where they actually hire such people it's made into LinkedIn free-cookie posts. That's why you get to see maybe 2 of the 100 that apply.

It's still immature and I've come to realize assignment based hiring works best for both parties, given that the recruiter understands the technicality of the assignment first.

Besides, hiring inexperienced devs inside an experienced dev pool is sometimes beneficial for stagnant departments.

@AlmondSauce Still struggling to work from StackOverflow life support doesn't really scream growth to me

@3rdWorldPoison Nah, but some can get past that stage very quickly. It's rare, but does happen.