CSS is utterly retarded but I can’t help but be impressed by how well the DOM still works in this day and age. The fundamental structure hasn’t changed since the 90s.

CSS is also pretty damn good considering it's just bolted onto html

Stockholm syndrome?

@Demolishun What alternative do we have though?

@12bitfloat That is the point. Captivity to the tech. So we start to "like" it. Honestly though, I like CSS. I can generally achieve what I want fairly painlessly.

@Demolishun Imagine every amazing ass website in the fucking world. Literally all of that shit is built on css shit. Just different levels of abstraction.

It's always the last

Why is CSS retarded?

@3rdWorldPoison why is water wet?

@hashedram Is water wet?

@3rdWorldPoison Remind me to come back to this thread when I’m high enough.

Let’s hear your layout system ideas. I bet they are really great.

@sheriffderek Cassowary constraints.

@junon Cassowary is kinda awesome but unfortunately also pretty slow. IIRC you can't get it better than O(n^3) where n is the number of constraints

@12bitfloat Can you show me proof of that? For practical uses cassowary (nucleic/kiwi specifically) has been very fast.

@junon Probably not and looking through the original paper, 900 constraints took around 8 ms to resolve (partially cached) on a 1998 IBM Thinkpad 760EL (133 Mhz Pentium 1 lol)

But I also know that Flutters layout alg is explicitely O(n), so I don't know