Linkedin/Jura/Monster/[other job finding websites] should add a feature:
A button that reads "lying mofo or dumbass" on each job ad.

For those employers and recruiters who don't understand that neither a senior role nor any role that requires a PhD is classified as an "entry level".

Unfortunately there are so many such dumbfucks I can't blacklist all of them from my job search. 🤬

Maybe then they can take down these dumb ads. And force the companies to give more fucks about people they interview.

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This guy is looking for a junior that has a phd. Wtf!!

Can't someone have a PhD but have no working experience? 🤔
They would be technically junior

@iiii no. By achieving doctorate, you're a certified high level expert in your field. Industry just repeats one work while in academia you can't grow by doing the same thing over and over again. And you don't achieve phd by just "studying". It literally is doing original research work until you can provide a unique dissertation based on them.

@NoMad okay, fair enough

Maybe they mean the alternate meaning of phd

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@NoMad depends on the field. I did reject people with phd and no experience on senior roles, because their knowledge was theoretical. That doesn't help in a lot of cases.

@KatatonDzsentri clearly you didn't need the latest and greatest. I'd actually argue gaining a phd puts you right above a senior role. Theory or not, they have expertise in something no one else has ever done. (that's what a dissertation is)

@NoMad i agree on that. But in most cases, as a senior, I need someone who not just did something nobody ever did before, but someone, who also knows practical implementations. I'm not biased against phds, it's just not a silver bullet. I've met my fair share of idiots with phds, who basically solved a problem - and never wanted to go all the way to ensure it's ready for production. A container running with mostly green-path code in heroku or a dev machine... That's in many cases months before being production ready.

@NoMad and let's be clear - most businesses don't need the latest and greatest - as you put it, though I have serious doubts about it being true - but need people, who know how to get from A to B on an unknown path and did it multiple times. Experience is not interchangeable with a phd, ever. And vice versa.

@KatatonDzsentri sure thing man. Just don't say in a job ad "challenging status quo" or "we have an exciting product" just say it's a dull senior position and you'll be doing literally what you did in your last job.

And you literally can't hire a phd as a junior. No one with 10 years worth of study gonna do that unless they're international students in dire need of money.

P.S. my line of work currently is ML. If they don't want latest and greatest, they should not be hiring an ML engineer to begin with.

P.P.S. Where I currently am it's actually an offense to hire someone overqualified and the business doing so will get fined. (A few exceptions for those changing field of work or actually wanting to go for a lower role, but I know they got paperworks and whatnot)

@NoMad challenging the status quo and interesting product can mean a LOT of things. ML, cryptography are tipical areas, where I'd definitely want someone who really knows their shit in these areas and a good phd can help a lot.

But phd itself is not a guarantee for anything. I interviews a guy for a security engineer position, who had a phd and teaches something around security in the uni as well. I read his thesis about IoT security, I could write it in an afternoon. He ran nmap, made some generic calls using burp and made a conclusion "security is important in IoT" without eg examining the firmware on esps, scanning for real vulnerabilities, or maybe actually hacking it. He was offended by technical questions eg around dns security, etc, since he has a phd, but nevertheless he couldn't answer them. I've worked with great professionals with ohd as well. Phd itself does not entitle you to anything. Prove your knowledge.

@KatatonDzsentri a defense is literally a proof. Lol. Otherwise everyone would just walk around and call themselves a doctor.

Don't get me wrong, a few incompetent exist in every field. So I'm not saying a phd makes one a super human. I'm just saying, it takes at least 6 years of research to become an expert in a narrow field. And anyone who dismisses this expertise and wants to put them in a junior position... Well, is a really bad manager.

@NoMad I'm not saying I dismiss them. In my story, I interviewed the guy with an open mind (I usually do not check education on CVs, only after the interview to avoid any bias). The guy put a tripwire in front of his foot and fell.