I don't like vue.

😧

I don't like you.

I think I have seen this before: deja vue?

same.

Neh vue is great even though not my favorite.

React is a pile of shit though and facebook should burn to the ground.

Don't listen to them. It's your opinion and Vue is just a tool. What I like behind it is the backstory: the fact it's maintained by Evan You and vast community of Vue followers. They make it better step-by-step with considerate changes: template syntax remains the same good citizen and versioning is not ducked up.

Svelte introduced a compiler way, which I'm appreciating more though.

Whether I want to be contrarian on this depends on if the context is "Vue and the current state of frontend tech in general has some issues" or "I've used react for years and I tried Vue today".

Sending my regards from this razor+jquery monolith from 2008.

I like Angular and React because they are in demand. Vue? Not so much

@glemiere man, if you can't handle React - you are a shitty dev (sorry, not sorry).

@ostream Mithril is so damn verbose and unclear to use. Fucking hate it.

@rados a shitty dev can only be someone who buys in how "hooks" are amazing even though it's just marketing a fucked up workaround for an already trashy design.

Let me guess, you're a "React is a library" guy, a "React is functional guy". Guess what, React calls your code many, many times making it a framework, and it re-created a state management system making it not functional at all.

React is an inconsistent, badly designed piece of trash who got hyped from the virtual DOM, which is great to be fair. But everything else about it is just absolute garbage.

@rados hey buddy...

@glemiere has a point: don't forget the agenda behind React. While it might have the brightest maintainers in the past, you can't forget the background: it's a product attributed more to Facebook rather than its community. So if React recent maintainers wouldn't adopt the hype train called "hooks", they'd be called out as dinosaurs and basically everyone would put into attention
how this popular Agile-absolute "flexibility" does more harm than good.

That in return decreases a development value of Facebook inside products. These guys have to prove their framework is worthy to exist, I'll give it to them. Fortunatelly, it's not my path.

Now, don't think that by calling out React, I try to turn blind eye on Vue's problems. It has almost equivalent amount of virtual DOM fuckery under the hood.

@ostreama when only call code it's a library because you're free to deal with it in any way you want and are not subject to any opinionated design. Frameworks on the other end take decisions for you... by calling your code. So yes, that's how you make the difference.

Angular is far from perfect and its documentation just shows how lazy googlers can be BUT at least it's not trying to pretend to be something it isn't, does not rely on devgen marketing to exist, is a complete tool that won't need a billion dependencies to be production ready (though Angular folks tend to rely too much on the framework creating tech debt just like reactwits). Angular's design isn't full of absolute fuckery with the exception of modules.

Svelte is King. Everything else is at least fine, except for React, which is just a pile of shit. If React was a car it'd be a Subaru or a Ford, do you drive one of these?

a week of drama 😧

that's what devrant is for 🤭