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nitnip18153yA College education does not imply a good education. No matter how modern or pricy.
You can get guys going to the crappiest colleges becoming programming wizards or people going to the "top class" colleges being little more than children with barely any relevant knowledge.
It's no wonder they want you to pass their own
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Insert any third world uni, any uni like that has educational program outdated by at least dozen of years, in some areas it is outdated by dozens years or even half of a century.
Speaking on behalf of Russia.
Unis in at least capital city potentially can be more modern though.
I heard that Indians have it even in a more ridiculous way. For programming specialties they need to pass Chemistry exams for some reason. -
Jabb032663yIn France, university teachers are researcher. And the teaching couldn't be further than real world company work.
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@nitnip While I understand your viewpoint, mine does though because it's the hardest in the country and students don't graduate from there without having strong fundamental knowledge and insight into what is thought. We're the exception, I know.
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@Jabb03 Over here the teachers have worked as seasoned developers themselves and the class work is the same thing as real life work. We're proud of that as a university.
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jeeper59753yThe issue isn’t discounting the experience, it’s discounting the experience because it’s university experience. Just like discounting self employed experience. Rather than categorically discounting experience, make a better interview assessment that gives a picture of skills and learning ability.
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Why do some employers make such a distinction between learning the tools at university and learning the same tools at the workplace?
Are they backward or old? Don't they know modern, high-quality universities have modern environments that are in fact real life?
Environments with acc-test-prod-dev with gitlab, ci/cd in Scrum teams and the works? Heck, at my uni we even worked at real companies, did internships there for months!
Come on.. to me this 'the tools you learned in school isn't the same experience as real life experience'. Right, these guys must be on some conservative backward model because there is in fact no difference.
I have worked both during my uni internship at a real company (in teams too) as well as irl at real companies and there is no difference, it's the same thing.
I don't care if I've learned to experience git + ReactJS etc during an internship through uni or at a workplace. It's all bureaucracy.
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