ok, these job requirements are getting more ridiculous day by day...

That is ridiculous yes, I have been programming for 40 years, as a full time job for 21, and I can match about half of that, and I generally have a wider experience than most I meet.

They either have no clue to what they want, or they are actually trying to fail to get a match ;)

Maybe they have multiple roles and posted them all in a single job ad?

That isn't the list of things they need. It is the list of things they already have.

What they really need is someone who can properly split that mess into maintenance roles and write actual job requirements.

and they offer 800 eur a month... i agree with Voxera more, they are throwing the hook and see if someone catches on... and in this way they are seen by a every programmer whatever job he is searching for... the actual job is presented on interview i guess...

i don't think any company in the right mind would have a stack this wide, for example Laravel, Spring and Ruby on Rails... why?

@KorDarei 800 a month?

Thats less than I got when I started working full time 30 years ago.

What employer is this?

@Voxera yeah, i noticed that this is the business plan of many small start-ups:

1. find a client who is tech retarded but wants something

2. find an intern who knows shit but will work for as small salary as possible

3. profit

now when project comes near the end and both parties start to see that the project will go down the shithole then take some more money and rent a senior from a bigger company and hope he can fix it in two week sprint...

sad truth....

The requirements are okay if it's an English test and they wanna hear you pronounce the listed words

800 Euro per month is outrageous. Babysitters make more part-time.

@KorDarei

We use PHP/Laravel, Python/TensorFlow, JS React and Vue, Java/Spring, Rust and several other languages & frameworks.

But we don't hire fullstack devs.

We hire devs like "Backend/Infrastructure Engineer, Rust knowledge preferred, but not required", or "Junior Machine Learning developer (training position), medior Python knowledge required".

In my opinion, if you're a Backend web dev, you should be able to roughly understand a Vue component, or a CSS or SQL snippet when you see it -- but not necessarily be able to write it yourself.

800 a month is poverty! But that’s in euros. Not sure how that translates into USD. I never understood what goes into these people’s heads. They post every tech known to mankind as requirements then offer chump change. It’s bad enough they want Superman to work for them and reject everyone else who doesn’t meet their godly standards.

@rEaL-jAsE

There was a Reddit AMA with a double-dicked dude once.

https://reddit.com/r/IAmA/...

@bittersweet it's completely fine if you keep it as simple and organized as possible, if one of these are "false" you will see yourself writing a job ad "Laravel developer and DevOps specialist proficient in Tensorflow, Angular prefered" :D :D

@KorDarei

It's about the ability to afford a wide tech stack.

With a budget for 5 devs, you could pick:

2x PHP, 2x JS and 1x Ops.

Or... 2x Android, 2x iOS, 1x Java Spring dev.

You have to make choices.

If you're close to half a billion revenue and have 250 developers, you can more easily say "Sure, most of our teams are using Java, but if Team Purple wants to use Scala for a transcoding pipeline, let's go nuts on that. Let's poach 2 extra Scala devs from a competitor just for the hell of it"

But yeah in general, I do not believe true "fullstack" devs exist. A company might be able to afford a wide stack by hiring and organizing many specialists, but you can not expect a single dev to know it all.

@bittersweet i believe you become a full stack dev if you are doing a full project by yourself, and even with that you don't have to know every existing language, library or framework out there.

I've been freelancing and doing full websites and in truth the stuff I make might work okay but am mostly just too thinly spread out to concentrate on everything detail and think it, sth works and am done with it.

Although there are some perks, you get to know how to write understandable code, you will read it all on your own.

@bittersweet by having a big budget that is way to go, if you narrow the field of responsibility for each dev there is way less chance for mistakes.

However it delivers quality software but expensive, having 5 people working on it raises price tag for a project a lot... So fullstack devs is a compromise for that, because it's hard to have them working in sync, its hard to organize them

Looks more like 90s or rookie marketer SEO on keywords metadata.

@TeachMeCode you do know that euros have a higher value than usd right?

The country's standards and taxes are what matter. Here you can rent a room in a student home for 700 euros. In Mexico you can rent a villa for that

So the other reason for adding a lot of tech tags like this is so you show up in more searches, because you just want more candidates to see the post. I suspect that’s the case here, because a lot of these technologies solve the same problem.