Just graduated in CS.
All jobs required experience in stuff I never seen/heard before (back then I didn’t know most job listings were copy pasted by people who knew less than me).
I felt so inadequate that I replied to a job offer as a seller as they asked only fluency in 2 foreign languages.

The company owner during the interview looked at me and told me I needed to look elsewhere, that mine was a good resume and then he dropped this:
“I can see you are a good guy, but for this job I need an asshole”

Back then it was very hard for me but now I understand

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    You didn't tell enough dark humor jokes.
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    Two things:

    1) University gives you the bare minimum at best, on which you should build upon yourself; this might reflect what a job is like too.

    2) Having graduated doesn't mean a lot unless you've done a bunch of stuff in the meantime. Sign up for an internship first instead of a full time job right away and if you're adequate, you'll quickly find your way through to the full time job.
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    Graduated == has proven they can learn, has not proven they have learned anything relevant
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    I didn’t specify it was a few years ago.
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    Why would he have needed an "asshole"?
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    @asgs sales dept
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    @kamen 2) fuck no. In no civilized country you need to get through an internship AFTER graduation. You them as a mandatory part of your education, and thankfully these days most of those are paid. Fuck any society where you have to work unpaid for experience.
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    yes, totally agree on both!
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    @100110111 Internship before graduation would be ideal, but there are paid internships outside of university too here and there.

    Even when you get to join as a junior, you most likely need someone to look after your work at first, which costs money to the company as well.
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    @kamen I haven't ever seen an internship that actually pays enough to live off of (or even close). I had several during school and never made more than $10 an hour, even in NYC. Also in the US at least, unpaid internship are usually not legal. Basically an unpaid internship has to check 3 boxes 1. No more than 10 hours a week 2. Whatever your doing as an intern doesn't directly generate revenue (which is basically nothing) 3. The thing your doing can't be something anyone else is getting paid for.

    So basically there's a few internships for non profits that fit the guidelines. It's been like that for years, it just was never enforced. In recent years it's gotten better because university started cracking down on unpaid internships. Source: I worked for the uni career center as a part time job and my main job was basically interrogating companies about what the interns were ACTUALLY going to be doing.
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