The "Outline" view in VSCode is useless
It shows too many nodes too deep so it looks like a giant heap of everything

It might be indeed too noisy, but it's still useful for when you need to go to a symbol.

Sounds like a good feature request to be able to stop it expanding beyond N levels (that you can set).

@kamen agreed, it exists because at least some users find it useful but if there are improvements to match more use cases I think they are happy to at least know.

I always think IDEs are a nice idea, but all I really want is autocomplete and nothing else really. Just too noisy.

@atheist That depends on how you customise it. I used to be a JetBrains guy and even those could look very stripped down, showing only what you need.

@kamen Think "sublime".

I can navigate a 10k line code base from memory, so a lot of the extra stuff doesn't benefit me.

"SCIENCE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT HEAPS" -Professor Farnsworth

@atheist our code base is more in the region of 500 000 lines spread out in over 1 000 files, written and maintained by 25 people, no matter how good memory I have I cannot keep track on all changes others do.

The IDE helps with a lot of things :)

On the other hand, I also quite often use vscode and vim, the later for bash but also for some php :)