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How bad is it? I've been thinking of buying a macbook for programming as I've seen it to be quite smooth with building projects.
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I found intelligent life on Earth, I repeat, I found intelligent life on Earth!
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Air is too weak.
Been programming daily on a MacBook Pro for 2 years and are happy with it ✌️ -
Yeah... bought a 2015 air, couldn't even last out of warranty before it broke. Took it to be fixed as it was still under warranty, got it fixee, failed again just after the 30 day repair warranty. Now I'm sitting here with a 1000$ paper weight in the corner :p
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RTRMS36908yThe problem there was air, they are designed to be light weight, that means minimal power, I'd you bought it to dev on then sorry to say it, but you were an idiot. Mac is great for frontend dev, but anything less than a pro simply will not cut it, we multitask way too much, you bought a pretty calculator and expected it to run a nuclear power plant.
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MacBook Pro will work fine, but you can spend the same amount for a better machine from nearly any other manufacturer and toss Ubuntu on it, since that's what you like.
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Like @RTRMS wrote - you bought a writing machine... I switched from powerful Linux machine to MBP and I can't be more happy, really.
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My MBA is just a media device. Netflix only for this machine!!
That said, I'm not happy with the macOS experience, but that's what I got it for, so it's either dual-boot (which isn't the easiest thing to do) or just leave it alone. I've elected to do the latter. -
RTRMS36908y@OfficerHalf I did, and while it's great for the odd occasion that I do play games, I actually wish I had grabbed an MBP, I don't play games enough relative to how much I dev, and the battery life and weight of the MBP would of served me better, especially with the new job I start on Monday.
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JohanO20488yMy 5year old MB Pro is still holding up pretty darn well!!
15" retina, quadcore i7 2.6Ghz, 16Gb Ram and 500Gb SSD -
TheShell3058yThe reason I like MacBook pro is that it's effectively a Linux (Unix) machine without the countless driver problems I kept encountering with Ubuntu and mint.
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@Dasyel I take my disabled webcam over brew as a crippled package manager any day ;)
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@bittersweet as long as you do not need Photoshop, or any other software to make a living... ;)
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ajmada2298yI webdev on Ubuntu and I love it. The only annoying point I found out with linux is poor support of Skype. No video, no screensharing. I need to reboot in Windows for every grooming session. Meaning I can't dabble when BA'S and PM's are lost in their speech.
Well, at least this isn't Ubuntu fault but Skype's... Damn MS -
bitshift468y@cypherPunk I guess it has something to do with the fact that you are using "then" instead of "than". ;)
More than happy. Not more then happy. Or maybe you were more and then became happy? -
@TheAsianDev don't count macbook / apple for the quality hw / sw as many claim it to be.
Th mb air i bought started having display issues in few weeks of use.
Apple's bootcamp fucked up when i tried it. Mac os recovery was no help and i ended up having it send it for repair about 100 miles away. Since display issue was random, they didn't care to look at it. Now i have a column of dead pixel.
The os lacks consistency all over and ux is not that good compared to Ubuntu or windows. Only thing i can appreciate is touch pad however you'll have to kinda relearn gestures. Even basic things like text selection is little too complicated. It has 2 - 4 finger combinations for gestures and keyboard shortcuts - something that i find odd and ridiculous.
Multitasking is terrible. Max it can support is 2 windows. For more windows, you'll end up positioning then in weird ways.
If you money enough for macbook, go for a high-end laptop with hw that supports linux / ubuntu. -
@HoloDreamer Although it did come at a price, I appreciate the review. Thank you!
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RTRMS36908y@HoloDreamer again, your problem comes down to "air" I had a MBP for month, multitask ed it like a beast, not sure about UX issues, I have a seperior hardwared MSI laptop, and for dev work the MBP still outshines it and Ubuntu.
If you choose to buy rubbish, you cannot very well expect anything more of it. -
@RTRMS
"If you choose to buy rubbish, you cannot very well expect anything more of it."
Except a Macbook Air is an Apple product and Apple products are supposed to be the best of the best. Sometimes you just can't get a MBP because you don't have enough money or it's not light enough for whatever reason. A MBA should be just as high quality as the MBP--not the same specs but the same build quality.
But at least two people in this thread have said otherwise. So in other words, if you're calling the MBA "rubbish," then so is the MBP. -
RTRMS36908y@RiderExMachina how do you propose to get the same build quality out of a device that is physically lighter, they make it lighter by reducing materials. On top of that, regardless of brand, defects exist in all production lines, no 2 are ever identical. It is just as likely that an MBP could have a shit batch.
If you cannot afford the pro, which is expensive, you cannot expect to get an equally good product in the air which is like half the price. -
My MBA has had its downsides (no daisy chaining display port monitors, very difficult to dual-boot Linux, python version woes) all of which can be ameliorated with enough face-mashing of the keyboard. Enough has been said about the upside, and much of it is true. But dat price, man... In the end, I'd be on Linux if I didn't need to develop for iOS and osx.
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ajmada2298y@bittersweet We use both. Slack and Skype. But we're going to go full Slack very soon.
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A bit late, I would upvote, but you're saying Ubuntu (Unity) is user friendly. That is a huge piece of shit.
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Hate to say this.
I regret my last year's purchase of macbook air. I could've easily purchased a powerful laptop with atleast 16 GB RAM and high end Graphics.... Instead i choose to go with this piece of shit for a change.. :/
Also Ubuntu is much user friendly than macos.
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