Anyone ever had JavaScript cause intense misery? I want off of this rollercoaster please.

Problem is what ride you climb onto next. They are all terrible. Like a rusty old theme park run by cannibals…and really evil, scary clowns.

Stay on the ride is the only thing keeping you alive. Remember that.

@platypus the park is burning and the only safe place is on the water coaster. Instead of water though, it's the blood of the people who got off the ride.

So your choices are; stay on the ride and continuously become marinated in blood and bile, or get off the ride to feed yourself into the suffering of others.

Ok now add micromanaging co workers as well

Languages aren’t bad, people are bad at working with them

@phat-lasagna nope, there are definitely bad languages. JS is one of them.
The fact that it’s popular and that you can still build stuff with it doesn’t make it good.

Oh yes.

Also: @phat-lasagna most languages aren’t bad, but there are a few. @Lensflare I wouldn’t say JS is a bad language — it has its pitfalls and specific awfulness, but overall it’s decent to use. Now, XSLT? That is a bad language. (Honestly, so is x64 assembly, if that counts.) JS is a dream by comparison.

@Lensflare saying JS is a bad language is basically like admitting that you have weak interchangeable programming paradigm skills

@phat-lasagna what are you talking about? JS doesn’t establish some special paradigm. It’s a multi paradigm language like most other languages are. It’s just bad at any of the paradigms.

Coming from a OO, strongly-typed background I’ll have to agree with some of the other commenters. JS is madness. But the longer you in the jungle, the more it grows on you. I remember struggling with Promises when I first learning the language. Conceptually they made sense but the internals weren’t being explained properly in any blog, article, or book that I could find. And I think that is part of the problem, coders are generally terrible at explaining complex ideas in English. It’s a totally different skill set. It’s the reason why documentation on 3rd party libs is often lacking. It’s the reason a lot of technical books are junk. I feel like this is an area where our field has a lot of of room for improvement.

@Lensflare sorry I was 10 drinks in when I typed that

any time i work with web tech i start being suicidal. i can usually cope for a maximum of 6 months, then i shut down and it takes about a year to two years for me to recover until i'm again able to even see IDE's splash screen without getting anxiety.