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moars426547y@RazorSh4rk it is byte code compatible but it is more than a framework because it handles some things very different. E.g. Null handling, packages, not everything is a class...
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Darkler15887yKotlin is a language. It can be compiled on its own, to Java byte, or to Javascript.
Also aren't all languages just frameworks of machine code in the way that you're implying? -
More supported languages is good.
Imagine if you could only develop for PCs in one language — the world would've been a much less innovative place.
I don't know whether Kotlin is awesome enough to replace Java eventually, or whether it will die off again, but the maintainability risk should be up to product owners and CTOs, not the platform. -
Esper937yAll the java fans are suddenly butt hurt even though kotlin, scala and probably also clojure worked fine on Android for quite a while now...
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eldamir12307yEither trolling or very ignorant. Either way pisses me off. Attain more knowledge before spouting bullshit. That is all
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DrEmann2537yEver looked at clojure? It also compiles to the jvm, but surely you wouldn't call it a framework. The syntax is wildly different.
Or does this mean all languages that have a llvm backend are frameworks for each other? C, and D, (and kotlin, now), and Rust can all compile to something common: LLVM bytecode. -
Check out the best kotlin tutorial or courses recommended by programming community.
http://letsfindcourse.com/kotlin -
Bethor1035yAged Like Milk:
chalarangelo:
It's not really a framework OR a language. It's some kind of an abstraction. I'ts useless in my opinion and fast forwrds three years from now, we'll have to maintin code in an abstraction that will be so radically different from Java or its previous versions that we will be barely able to not have our heads explode. Mark my words!
>Kotlin has like 0.1% market share and is basically a java framework
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>LETS MOVE IT TO ANDROID
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