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@kunashe I think that the expectation was that when you walk in the door of a new project, you can code without a PC?!
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@kunashe I actually helped out as much as I could - showed a junior programmer a few tools to help him work smarter. And stayed late on Friday to help him get further. What a waste of time.
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@kunashe And so if someone asked you to build a small web site - requiring about 5 pages, email confirmation, UI absolutely PERFECT, images provided by graphic artist using PHP, jQuery, HTML5, MySQL and make sure it is responsive to all devices and by the way, that includes an Admin screen to do some updates to the db. Constant revisions to the UI... how long would you tell them it should take? My answer is probably what got me fired.
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@lifeisgoodish Typical inexperienced and ignorant managers. Afraid of the reality of situation.
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kunashe19878y@lifeisgoodish I'd say 3 weeks minimum.
In essence the request for 5 pages is on a similar scale to a small eccommerce site. (5 pages are all you need for an e-commerce site.)
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@kunashe that (3 weeks) is what he/they wanted me to say. I was too consistent in saying "4 weeks". bcI saw how many changes they were making every day (in the two days I was there). I hate jerks that say - I could have coded that in N time. (N = .5 times your estimate to write clean code)
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@lifeisgoodish Had same shit going on at a old job. Had a other coworker starting with me at the same time.
I got fired after 21 days. I always helped out the coworker, tried my best at the job, always listened to my supervisor and brought up good results.
I teached the coworker a lot of things he didn't know, he always asked me for advice, when the supervisor was not around.
The clients were happy with me and the job was fine.
The supervisor asked for my opinions and improvments. But guess what? He didn't like my ideas and "disliked" me.
The funny thing is, after I was gone, 2 days later they used already 1 of my ideas for their site. I gave them a lot more improvments and they are adding them up to theire site even now... -
@MoboTheHobo Wow, this rant is taking a turn for the best for me. Thank you! Nice to know I'm not the only one!! I noticed the site is still not live and I'm wondering if the founder didn't just fire the whole team -- me being first.
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@honbad You are so right - I shouldn't have taken that stupid job, but it was within 1 mile of my home and sounded interesting. Lessons learned - Always go with your gut - I knew the owner was an ass from the first time I met him. Some of them you don't have to deal with once you get the job, but this one was very hands on and thought he walked on water.
Today was my 3rd day on the job and half way through it (right after my new laptop landed on my desk) I was fired. I tried to work for two days without a computer. All I could do was hover over the one other developer whose been there 3 weeks and who didn't meet the launch deadline. The founder had a meltdown over it this morning.
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