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grosten
7y

Dear Apple.

Charging $99 for a one-year developer account is bullshit.

Best regards,
Me and every other tech-student on this planet.

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  • 27
    True! One time payment like android would do the work!
  • 13
    Gotta pay for their walled garden's upkeep.
    💩
  • 18
    @ClemFrieckie I'm not saying they're bad, I love Apple's products. What's bothering me is the fact that they're pushing for more young students to start developing but charging way too much for it. I can barely afford it and there are a lot of talents in this world with even worse economy than me.
  • 8
    I understand that they want a certain standard on the appstore but they should at least provide a cheaper option for amateurs and non profit apps!
  • 7
    @grosten I agree the price is a bit ridiculous, but I'm curious why you need to buy the account to develop?

    You can use simulator for free and Apple actually allows you to build to one device for free, unless you plan on publishing you don't need it :)
  • 6
    @tylerhartwig actually, you don't. You have to pay if you want to publish an app, but developing and testing on a device (with same apple id) is free..

    By the way, I thinkmapple is doing bullshit. On this point, Android is a lot better. You pay the first time qnd then you are good forever..
  • 8
    I have been developing iOS apps since 2 years.. I don't own a Mac or an iPhone or even the apple developer license! Thank god my company takes care of all this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • 4
    I have heard many iOS users would even buy Hello World app for $10. Is it true?
  • 3
    @Drastic 😵😭
  • 3
    I don't think it's that big a deal. It keeps the quality high. Look at the volume of utter shit on the play store.
  • 3
    Question, how much do you pay for Netflix? Or Amazon Prime?

    Disclaimer, I have never paid for an Apple developer license and probably never will.
  • 1
    @Drastic@GigaMick maybe they should raise the price!
  • 0
    Totally agree, the worst is that if not p Totally agree, the worst thing is that if you do not pay you can not renew certificates for your published applications, once the certificate expired you can no longer install it.
  • 1
    Dear Programmer

    We all know that they won't give a fuck so let's just all switch to Android and not polluting the obvious
  • 0
    @diamondburned Ha! Not a chance! ;)

    I'm an Apple fanboy, and will probably stay being one. You can't deny that their products are good. I've never had a severe problem with any of the ones I own, and the rest, the smaller errors, have been fixed for free.
  • 0
    @tylerhartwig As @taglia wrote, I don't need the developer account to develop. Just the fact that the WWDC scholarship, which are mainly meant for students, requires an account means that Apple is expecting students to buy into this.
  • 1
    @grosten oh I didn't know about this scholarship deal, that makes more sense now :)
  • 4
    @grosten I respect your opinion. I, however, never had a good time with Apple. Excluding the expensive price brings us to their software. I've been wondering what would I pick: an S8 with iOS or an iPhone 7 with Android 7. Immediately the choice is the latter. Why? iOS is too restricted, for example you couldn't customize and theme your status bar (not an Android fanboy as I always ignore Android phones that aren't customizable), their softwares are bad (although some of the stock Apple ape are good), the UI isn't that intuitive to use (yes I prefer the back button) and last but not least: I LOVE the Material Guidelines. They are elegant and far more intuitive than Apple's kind of flat and curvy design. Only thing I hate is the memory management (running too many apps in the background) and the new Nougat emojis. Blobs all the way
  • 0
    @diamondburned iPhone's hardware would not run Android very well. They sell decent phones for a fortune.
  • 1
    Apple greedy? Never! 😂
  • 1
    @byIcee 2GB and a Quad Core is enough for me. My phone has those specs. But that was just an example since those things would never ever happen.
  • 0
    Ok, don't get me wrong, I don't have the money for it either, but have you seen the complete and utter shite residing on the google play store as a result of the low fee? If you have to pay $100/year you'll think twice before getting to publish your apps, and I think that's the purpose.
    Also I find it really strange that as a student you have the money for a device to test on, and for a mac to develop on, but not for the fee itself.
  • 5
    @diamondburned I think problem here is fundamental: you're a dev and devs like tinkering. Apple make mass market products for people who want a premium product that is awesome out of the box, requires no setting up or modifying, and is pretty tough to crash.

    It's not about what platform is "better" - that's such a ridiculous arguement. it's about what type of experience you want as a user of the device.
  • 0
    @Greggergalactic they are money loving assholes, that cannot be denied
  • 1
    They need money for sauron's ring office they are building.
  • 1
    Apple has always been like this. It's not about being better than anyone, but rather bring somewhat exclusive.
  • -1
    Steve jobs even encouraged internal competition ie orcs vs goblins
  • 0
    I recently switched to learning ios app dev after being working as a android dev for like the past two years and this was one of the first things I hated about it. I maintain few non-profit apps on the play store and I wanted to do the same for the App store but the price apple expects me to pay for it is seriously way too much for any non-profit app !
  • 0
    Well, there would be so an easy way to go which would make everybody stop complaining about this: do not develop iOS apps.
    As soon as Apple notices that their oh so exclusive products don't sell as good as they used to because there are too few apps suddenly they must change.
  • 1
    I think you forgot the main point, Apple is a marketing business, not a software business :o
  • 0
    Honestly, never used any apple products to develop. With that said there 8760 hours in a year. Now say they charged 20 $ per hour you could program during that year. That would be 175,200 a year. That's the way i think about it atleast.
  • 0
    But it works because you have no choice. Or do you want to develop with Java for android 😅
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