I hate interviewing..

The first sentence of the candidate was, that he wanted to speak in english instead of german. Great start if you stated something else in the application.

And his english was even worse than mine.

And as expected from his tags in the application, he had a broad knowledge base. From IoT, LTE, node.js TCP, Java, Ruby, Python, to VLAN and firewalls.

Guess what, he had no in depth knowledge for the required job. Suprise!

Was that in Germany?

@DP1306 yes it was. And I wouldn't have a problem with speaking english, if he stated that in his application. And if his english would have been good. But I could barely understand him.

@mrtnrdl when he is a senior I would hire him without german.

At this point I even would like to hire someone with just a little bit of experience. But it seems to be impossible

@plusgut sensing he is an immigrant and someone from my country, since if he's German I doubt he'll ask for English. And having his English bad then it's not his native language.
I'd understand his bad English but I'd be really mad he has no in-depth knowledge of job requirements cuz he'd be wasting my time which I need plenty of it.

Good luck finding the right candidate

@gitpush sure it's understandable, but then don't write it on your resume that you are decent at it. And for the tech skills goes the same.

And thanks for the good luck wishes, I need it. Looking for more then half a year to staff my department.

@plusgut wow that much? I recall four years ago I was after a position in Germany and there was high demand for devs, sadly no one was willing to sponsor me. Thought it would be less now as I'm not seeing as many positions as I used to before.

@gitpush As far as I know it really depends on the field. What I hear from my c/cpp guys, there is not that much of a demand.
But experienced js developer? It's crazy rare to find some.

@plusgut man it must be hard, especially that JS is not like, say C# when you do something wrong visual studio gives you a detailed exception or warn you before compiling. You really need that luck

@gitpush Thank you :)
Yes that's true, but luckily there are tools like different linters, typescript or static code analyzers. Which help you with the issues. But sadly the ones who know there stuff are in tight relationships with there company, so it's hard to get a hold of them.
And don't get me started on automated tests, it seems like no one does it. Which is obviously not true, but it seems that way.

@plusgut ya tests are the most important part, I hate working on a project with no tests. Unfortunately so many now think writing code is mandatory and tests are just a waste of time :/

@gitpush true! So true!
I experienced that in my previous jobs as well. That's why I decided for myself never to work in an agency again. Only for companies which have there own product, it makes so much of a difference. But of course it's not a guarantee that it's better there, only better chances.

@plusgut yup it's a matter of luck. And we all need plenty of it

@apisarenco if a company would want to have code upfront, without me knowing if I even like the company?
Hell no. This takes to much of my time. I can bare to talk to you for 20minutes on the phone and in the next step we can talk about some practice. But then I want to see company code as well, upfront.

I think the problem with the JS market is that while supply is high, demand is even higher. And the supply is mostly jquery juniors, while the market needs seniors with extremely complex compound experiences.

I'm a bit wary of the fullstack idea when hiring: I prefer getting a few good VueJS devs with very basic backend knowledge, pairing them up with some excellent graphql API builders who are shit at frontend.

Of course it's great if someone wants to learn it all, but there's no shame in specializations in my opinion. Development is complex and moves forward fast, there's simply not enough time in a day to keep track of everything.

gute leute sind schwer zu finden

@bittersweet I completly agree with your description of the market. I currently set my bar this low, that I just want to hire someone who has decent programming knowledge and is motivated to do js.

@apisarenco sample code is something else then giving me a task to solve.
I can give you the links to my opensource stuff. but require me to write something for you? That's another story. Won't do that upfront before the first interview.

@mrtnrdl exactly! I totally agree.
He seems to have a broad choice between lot's of people.

And I actually do believe that a github account tells me enough to know if his technical knowledge is enough.

And again: 100 loc upfront before an interview? oh no. This company seems to care zero about my freetime.

@apisarenco Oh wow, you seem really prejudgemental.

@apisarenco okay, fair enough