No, css is not evil, that God forsaken mother fucking useless piece of horse shit wanking ass fucking whore framework known as bootstrap is.

Don't know about pros in web, but as beginner in web, bootstrap does help me a lot especially for multi screen sizes.
Again I don't do advanced stuff in front-end just something that looks good for me and works on different screen sizes.

@gitpush its 2017 my friend, there are better options, bulma, flexboxgrid.css, purecss, none of them weigh a metric ton because they though it was a good idea to build a framework to cater for everything between heaven, hell and beyond, 95% of which are not even used in 95% of the websites using it.

In my 10 years I have seen 1 website that truly justified using bootstrap, and it had a budget of £20 million and over 100 developers across 4 continents. Took 3 years to finish the mvp.

@RTRMS Aha, that's something I didn't know. So other than the ones you mentioned are there any frameworks I can check? Which ones do you recommend?

Bootstrap and JQuery are useless products created by the devil himself.

@gitpush depends on what you need, bulma would be a good modern replacement for bootstrap, also scss so easy to manipulate through variables. Flexboxgrid.css is purely for layout. Pure are css modules, so you just add in what css files you need, strange way of doing it, but as long you build process bundles them before prod there is no harm.

@ianertson jQuery was extremely useful in its time, and it can still be, though modern browsers have taken care of a lot of the simplicity jQuery offered.

In many cases it was the best tool for the job and way easier calling a jQuery method than writing out the dozens of lines of vanilla needed to deal with it.

Think about it, in 2010 we had jQuery, these days we use Vue and React and contextually they do the same thing. Biggest use of jQuery was dom manipulation and 'real time' data updating. React and Vue are an advanced way of doing just that.

Its all about the rite tool for the job, and we'll for most people the site is like a nail against a wall and bootstrap is the 20lb hammer they using to nail it in.

@RTRMS JQuery is bloated, poorly written and it's extremely unprofessional.

@ianertson no argument here, still back then it was the lesser/easier of 2 evils. Bootstrap hard dependency on it is one of my biggest reasons to not use it.

Would not use it now if my life depended on it, but back in they, our toolboxes were a whole lot smaller.

@RTRMS yes, I think it served it's purpose back in the days, no doubt.

Today, I think it's obsolete

Bootstrap is fine for quick and dirty stuff where you apply no custom styling whatsoever.

Becomes very very painful if you try to deviate from the defaults.

Useless? As in used-by-many-companies useless?

@SoulSkrix aye but the problem is the effect on the UX, mainly the load speeds because bootstrap's so big small servers run at about the same speed as some crusty dog cum sliding down the wall, and also idiots overuse the styling so much I feel like my eyes are burnt.

I will find them. And I will force them to stare at it for the next two weeks while my custom made SCSS styling is on a monitor next to it.