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@mt3o a bit aggressive, isn't it?
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@purpletoxicrain this is what I do with my mobile provider and with my car insurance company. They want to raise the bill each year.
There was an agreement and one side doesn't keep its end. Giving resignation letter with long due time give enough opportunity to give the raise or to withdraw the resignation. This is far better than quitting the job 'right now'. It's 'I want to work with you but on better terms, it's up to you to provide them or negotiate something else satisfying both sides. After all, we agreed upon this a year ago'.
Keep in mind that business understands paperwork and strict rules. If something is not on paper, it's like not existent. Like the 'raise 20% after a year' agreement. -
@mt3o yeah, but they are you suppliers. Not your employers
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@purpletoxicrain
In the resignation letter mention how your responsibilities changed during that year and how the team reduced. State that you and all your team are doing more work than when you started. Be specific and remember that you will be writing to non-technical people, to people who care about numbers, charts, and 'effectiveness'. Give the letter to two or three close friends and ask them what they see in that letter. Keep in mind that you and your supervisor know your status, business doesn't care as long as it's working fine. -
@purpletoxicrain suppliers/employers, can you elaborate? I don't understand the meaning of 'supplier' in that context.
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@mt3o suppliers give you service in exchange for money.
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Aaaaa. Ok. Insurance company is my supplier, the company is your employer. That's the way. I thought I missed something between the lines.
Few years ago I was ok with treating 'suppliers' like I said and employer like regular people. Until somebody pointed me out that I work with regular people, one of them might be my boss or even CEO of the company. But when I discuss anything professional, it's nothing like friendship. Your CEO is 'business' and you need to talk to 'business' not your friend who is CEO. That's even more important if you talk about money. When talking with the insurance company you focus, not on soft values (how you like your job, or how you like the view from office window) but hard data (digits). It's the same here.
Give it some thought, you already stated what I wrote earlier. You don't want to work for lower salary than agreed year ago, right? And what if nothing happens? At some point, you will have to decide - suck it up your ass having no raise - or quit. -
@purpletoxicrain let's go further and look from your manager perspective. He came to the business and achieved nothing. Because it was all word against word. With your resignation letter he will have strong asset to play with. The better your letter will be, the more value of yourself present, the more manager will win when taking all the business.
You know what? Talk to your manager, show him a draft of such letter (remember the long 'due' term) and ask what does he think of this. Learn how point of view.
I started working at my company a year ago.
Back then I was just graduating from sofware engineering degree.
The position was Junior Web Dev, But actually it is full stack developer.
When I joined I wanted salary X (because I "got offers"), which was a bit above what big companies like Intel gives to graduates back then.
The offered back 80% of it, which was a bit more than was most graduates got in startups.
I settled on their offer and we agreed that after a year I'll get the raise if I'll do good.
A year passed.
The team leader left for a bigger company, and I became the unofficial team leader (and was always the scrum master )
Bare in mind that there are two developers that are in the company for 2-3 years, yet I got the unofficial roll.
We had the talk, and my manager asked me straight away "under what salary would you start to search other jobs? We want to keep you here"
I said that under my initial X salary that we agreed a year ago.
He claimed to have forgotten that we agreed on 20% raise.
I answered that it's the least I ask, beneath it and I'll start looking for another job.
He replied that he'll do his best to make the owner give me that.
A week passed and I got no update....
What should I do in your opinion?
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