I am confused. Isn't Java the language made for Java developers? 🤔

No, it isn't :-D

there were no Java developers when Java was made

No, you see, there is the yin and yang. Think different ! :P

No, java is a language for people who get paid by line of code. And it's where good ideas go to be buried in verbosity.

@xalez That's quite interesting from the philosophical point of view. Do you think that people who created Java weren't Java developers just after creation? I know they didn't have to be but who taught other people how to be a Java dev?

@beriba they might've been Java devs *after* creating it, but not before it was created, i.e. they couldn't have sat down and said "let's create a new language called Java for all the Java devs out there"

@xalez good point. let me give you +1