devRant, I love you.

You suggested I learn Java & Nodejs. I decided to jump straight into node & it's just great. I haven't done much, just a mini blockchain and played with packages, but I'm having a lot of fun with node.

*coughs* try java *coughs* its verbosity makes me wet *who said that?*

Node > Java because electron ❤

@Dacexi yeah, I love slow apps on my i7 + ssd

I will try node some day. When i dont care about RAM. Yea i am talking about chromium based apps. They think they have some privilege to eat up resources on ma system. I am node happy!

@CristCD Its fast as hell for me!

@Dacexi Java > Node because Electron

@CristCD @sSam some apps are slow and some are fast. Look at vs code and atom. It's not about the platform, it's about the developers.

@Dacexi vs code is slow and atom is even slower. So what's your point?

@linuxxx Compared to a native app it isn't. I really don't like having an app that's rendering the same I could get in the browser. I need no app for that.

@CristCD No I said that it is very fast for me, not as an opinion but as a fact :)

@linuxxx It can be fast enough for you. But is unnecessarily slow compared to being native. I mean, why would you use electron? I really don't know a good ui framework for native apps, but it can't be worse than html+css right?

@CristCD Because writing cross platform software is easier this way and removes the barrier of making an app cross platform for a lot of devs. I'd rather have an electron app than a browsing tab for everything :)

@linuxxx Yeah, maybe the fact that anyone that knows how to put some sloppy js together can make a full program is one of the reasons I dislike electron. That and that any app that starts instantly has an electron cousin that takes a few seconds to open.

@CristCD again. Completely depends on the developer. devRantron starts up < 800ms on my 150$ laptop and runs perfect 60 fps.

@CristCD VSC is really fast, takes same time as notepad++ on my laptop (i7, SSD) and VSC has about 20 or so plugins installed

Atom is a bit slower