Hello guys, I need to ask for your advice on based on your experience which is the best PHP framework to use for someone who freshly just learned php and some of php OOP?

I have a few friends who like Laravel a lot. I'm not a web dev though so I can't give it my blessing directly.

If u wanna get an e-commerce job u can do Magento but imo it’s a pain in the ass

imho all frameworks do restrict you in some way and do help you speed up the process. The best way is to try as much as you can and find the one you love...

but then again that won't matter if you start work where they use another one, so the more of them you are familiar with the better ;)

Laravel is really nice! The generators are fantastic and you can actually make sense oh what is happening, as opposed to the dumpster fire that is Ruby on Rails. If you are not part of the cult and know the incantations… too bad!

The Laravel documentation is straight up gold and if you start learning it, just follow the laracast free videos, that Jeff guy can make the densest guy into a rocket scientist with the sound of his voice!

For what?
You are basically asking "I'm new to construction so what's the best tool for that?"

So of course my answer is going to be minicli is the absolute best and it's going to be just as wrong as anything else mentioned here.

I would argue to learn PHP basics first and only use a framework once you know the vanilla way and can appreciate the help the framework gives. That way you will have easier to adapt to other frameworks if meed be, a d also to know when you might want to avoid using it.

Learning extra frameworks to early can get you stuck in a way of working that is more opinionated.

Laravel is the only reason I'd ever use PHP voluntarily

Fuck laravel, Symphony is the best framework for anything, even surgery

@alexbrooklyn but Laravel is based on symfony, this is like cursing bread but prefer a cake when both are made from flour

@dIREsTRAITS but cake is delicious

@dIREsTRAITS they cover different use cases. Just because one is based on another does not make them interchangeable.

Had the same discussion the other way around recently. Cloud run vs cloud functions. Dude said cloud run is superior because functions are internally based on run and you never need functions so we don't support it. So now instead of just maintaining a piece of code with no deps I have to maintain a full blown pipeline that builds images and resolve security issues the whole time...

@alexbrooklyn hahahah i agree, let's curse the bread together hahah

@hjk101 unless we forget, always remember "the cloud" is just some else's computers...someone else's *overpriced* computers.