How does this happen? An endless loop maybe?

What a nice Telemetry botnet you have there mate

@legionfrontier are you referring to the kernal_task?

@greenhouse the ex-p2p chat that now Winblows make into a Telemetry botnet ... OS X is another topic for this topic at hand

@legionfrontier ok, forgive me... are you saying that Microsoft is using Skype clients as a botnet to execute their p2p chat, instead of a centralized server?

@greenhouse >their p2p chat
the original Skype code stopped being really p2p a long time ago chief https://arstechnica.com/information...
Just like Discord they are giving it for """free""" in exchange of data mining your conversations and other shit

@legionfrontier so that's not a bug then? ... they are intentionally using the Skype clients to create some sort of botnet for their own personal advantage... and the devs don't even care that it can get up to utilizing 18gb of RAM with absolutely no front facing user activity? Am I understanding this correctly?

@greenhouse yes, I think so

Have you been actively using Skype? I'm not a big fan, but I've never seen it get that crazy bloated.

Christ, the trifecta with these comments:
1. Says winblows (check)
2. Calls anything Microsoft a botnet (check)
3. Puts random ass accents on 'free' to emphasise that is at the cost of your privacy (check)

@iam13islucky Nice seen you (hopefully not deliberately) missed me low key also shitting on OS X being also a """botnet""" , even though I explictly was talking about Skype and not talking the whole Microsoft OS, I will be here all night if so then.
So I guess I got both of those 3, so what do I win, eh mate?

@iam13islucky I have maybe one project that uses Skype right now. And that thread has been inactive for at least a week. Skype had just been open in the background for a while.

@greenhouse weird. I don't think it's as full of malice as they assume. Probably just had to do with being open for a while and it having a memory leak or something.
Cock-up before conspiracy and all that jazz

@legionfrontier and @iam13islucky -
This is one of the best "bug vs. feature" exchange i've read in a while.

I am inclined to agree with @iam13islucky because i dont think MS are THAT bad.

But i got to give it to @legionfrontier , he presents a very plausible conspiracy theory since it's relatively "easy" to do it from a technological standpoint.

Anyway, thank you guys! Please continue..

@bioDan >Im presenting a conspiracy theory even though it has been well documented the fucked up stuff companies of these type have done.
Im fucking done, I never bitched about the OSes, Im bitching of what they do to you in the background and that is not even going into the hardware level:
Secrets Instructions in Intel CPUs found by a Security Researcher: https://youtube.com/watch/...
And Of course well know Mikko in the industry:
https://youtube.com/watch/...
https://youtube.com/watch/...

Also Windows 10 used to allow you initially if you had the time to turn off most Telemetry and other similar shit, now they go "lol fuck you, its permentaly on now amd Unturnable, cos we need like improve our software with stat and other shit like that, pinky swear"

@legionfrontier dude.. First of all, thanks for the links! The three of them were very interesting, but between what each video shows and your claim that ms is using skype as a telemetry botnet there is a huge gap.

Lets start by the first link, which only confuses me more since you preface by saying you're not talking about hardware hidden instructions and then sharing a link that talks almost exclusively about that.

Then you finish up by mentioning Mikko and giving two links of him talking about more or less the same things which are general security concepts..

To my point, you say you are "bitching about what companies like MS do in the background" but the links you share and what you wrote has nothing to do with Skype or software by MS in general or the switch in their methodology after they bought Skype, etc..

Other than that, thank you for sharing your opinion :)