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To all the laravel developers: is there no way to get a clean new app without having to clean out all the default shit? Lumen seems to be pretty good for minimalism, but obv. doesnt provide as much as Laravel, so what do you use or do - do you each time clean out a laravel app before you start developing on it?..

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    I didnt like Laravel, found symphony more cleaner,flexible and understandable...
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    @convict3d I think laravel is really the way I want to go, considering community, docs, tutorials, laracast, job market etc.
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    @JoshBent yeah it's all about what suits you, nyw am so familiar with symfony I typed its name wrong... 😐
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    @OneOrZero random user auth, multiple example controller, user migrations etc
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    @convict3d ok so I spent the last 48 hours figuring out something in "lumen" which is basically a diet-laravel, its literally built with symfony components and iirc laravel too.
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