In Switzerland, when you are unemployed you need to candidate for a certain amount jobs per month in order to get money from the insurance...

So I applied to complete my list, but never intendet to actualy go to this (FUCKING) company... And here I am, and I want out :-(

Can't you just resign and go for another one?

@gitpush well there is a three-months trial where both the employee and employer can see if things fit, but in @n0ah 's situation, not sure the insurance would accept?

@Phlisg hmm... so he is sort of stuck?

@gitpush not sure (since I've never been in that situation yet), but probably! Switzerland is a real PITA for that kind of administrative stuff (work-fare state ftw...)

@Phlisg this is bad, but in this case what can the employee, I'm feeling that changing jobs is a complete pain over there

@gitpush well overall it is "simpler" since for my part I only had two interviews, the second one generally induces we have the job, changing is also quite easy because of this low interview rate (except if going to a big/American company), but when you're unemployed you have to prove you're looking or doing some freelance work, and well that makes you land some uninteresting opportunities because of pressure from insurances ...

Plus most of the small/medium companies are old and follow old traditions... We are veeeery slow to change :-) (and conservative)

@Phlisg talk about slow change :\
here we still do everything manually instead of automating, we still suffer from centralized decision making ..etc.
But from what you say I conclude is, it is better if someone doesn't rely on insurance companies and go find a job him self?

The program actually makes a ton of sense. Why should the taxpayer just give you money? He need to be SURE that you are actually trying to get a job, else the program would be a socialist money sinkhole

@gitpush erf... that must be even more a pain in the ass...

Mmmmh, yeah - plus they charge you way too much money (talking about health insurance here) even when you have a high "buffer" where you have to pay everything yourself before getting compensated after a certain amount was reached (complicated sentenced, but what i mean -->

buffer = 1000;
while (medicationCost <= buffer) {
payFromYourOwnPocket();
}
if (medicationCost > buffer) {
payFirstAndInsurancePaysYouBack();
})

@Froot well, I do agree with the model as well, but it's based on "how many shitty jobs you applied a day" (could be any job, not just your field), instead of "how many quality jobs you may land"

ah well...

@Phlisg I see, but in the end you get something in return I guess

@Phlisg @gitpush Yes I could leave, but because I'm studing right now the chances are small that I find another job with the same sallary that is ok with me working 80%...

But I have a contact at another company, that is looking for a Junior Linux Enginer, witch would be a double win for me :-)

@Froot we have to Socialists slowly taking over the state, without the mainstream noticing it...

Sorry to hear that.. I had to do the same thing, sent a totally unpersonalised application for a job I wasn't qualified for, got back response email with a questionaire I didn't really understood, all about MS technologies I never worked with.. but my story has a happy ending.. maybe yours will too, eventually!
Anyways, week later I got email for job interview from a sister company (found that out later), went there and got the job, because they liked my CV & attitude (I like to learn new stuff) and they thought I'd fit in perfectly. I'm still working there, it's been 4 years now, I think.. loved it since the day one.. Got 'promoted' to another project, crappy old code noone wants/dares to touch but I love it! The guys think I am weird cuz I like to solve/fix things and make them better, and previous employees who worked on that project have all lost their shit and quit. They are all wondering how I can handle this, but little do they know about devrant & love for solving riddles.. ;)

@sladuled It's kind of strange that there are so many people in the tech/dev industry, but most of them don't care to optimise there code/projects/workflows, even if it would save then greate amount of time and nerves!

Good to hear that your story ended up good. Life is full of up's and down's, so im currently in a down and watch out for the next up :-P

@n0ah I see, best of luck in that :D