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IntrusionCM14753333dThis might be very wrong TM.
Depending on how good / bad you write your time log descriptions, illegal.
The intent of the journal is a bullet proof journal about what the apprentice learned. Not what the apprentice did... A very common misconception.
The Berufsausbildung usually is divided into a theoretical (school / university / ... ) and practical (work) part.
The employer must sign off on the journal.
Thats what I mean with bullet proof...
In case the apprentice has any issue with their employer or the success of the apprenticeship is endangered in any kind, the journal will be a legally binding document - thus be a proof wether the employer is at fault or the apprentice / employee.
Thus it is in the apprentice / employee best interest to write a specific journal, not a generalized one.
Chamber of commerce and industry / IHK has very strict guidelines regarding the journal.
At worst, one might not be allowed to write the final exam and get the diploma / certificate. -
IntrusionCM14753333d@Ranchonyx well... Thats fine.
Only reason I explained it in long detail is because its very important to realize who is fucked in the worst case... And thats not the employer - but the employee.
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KDSBest771332dAt the end one guy checked that I didn't gave them empty papers and they read maybe 4 entries picked random.
That's all they do and that's all this thing is used for.
You are supposed to write it to demonstrate you learned something.
It is not needed to write entries like a timetable IIRC. -
ZalnarT13332dI think it's actually also a kind of insurance, because if your employer missed something crucial in your training, you can start pointing fingers, as your trainer usually has to sign off every day. So by scraping something from somewhere, you essentially say "yea they taught me that and I should know it".
And yeah you have to write it yourself, but even in cologne you can hand it in digitally. So yeah... I guess you just didn't get it quite right. -
Ranchonyx10426332d@ZalnarT ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
My employer isn't teaching me shit anyway. All I learn is autodidactic. And my job college isn't teaching me anything relevant as well.
So in essence he didn't even tell me to write one. After I told him about it, he said "Just file what you did for each day..." -
ZalnarT13332d@Ranchonyx Yeah I've had that for the last few years. But you could of course use that against him if you wanted to :D But to be honest, I haven't either. So... Yeah. I guess you're right in a way.
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gurpreet18Irony is, the person who put this is on his seat is German 🙂 🇩🇪
So, in Germany apprentices at companies need to file a "Berichtsheft".
It's a thing where you have to file, for each day that is, what you did at work or in job college and how long you did it.
Basically every company keeps records of their employees activities in their CRM or other management system and all schools use services for keeping timetables that include lesson duration and activity.
So why the fuck do we apprentices have to write that shit ourselves when we could literally just acces the databases and SELECT THE SHIT FROM FILED_ACTIVITIES, I thought.
So I'm writing scripts to acces our CRM database and a puppeteer script now that scrapes the Untis (online timetable service for schools) timetables to extract everything, group it by date and format it nicely as CSV.
I'm sick of this: Digital system & Digital system = write it yourself bullshit.
Once I'm done I'll make a github repo for the Untis scraper.
Also, I'll be making the tools usable for the other apprentices at my company to spare them the suffering.
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