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albi11687ySadly yes , I even got a psychology class related to computer and client communication about how most client are stupid and don't know anything about computers
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rjedlin4517yThe really fantastic jobs are the ones where you deal with people who know enough about what you do to get why it's useful and where it's limitations are, but not enough to do it themselves.
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xalez19377yhmm .. is it not kind of like going to the pharmacy and asking for a cough medicine? the pharmacist doesn't ask you to explain how the medicine will cure the cough symptoms, they don't tell you that it's all molecular interactions and not magic, so you gotta explain it ... you probably don't know nor care, you just want your cough to stop..
I get that customers should know their business domain, but not the technical aspects, nor the UI/UX -
beleg31417yNo, it's not our job, but it is definitely a part of it.
But aside that, in the neural networks class I used to go last semester, we had an assignment to use MLP for a classification problem, and ironically, my problem was "predicting football results", though I was not very successful😅 I understand what you mean, ppl think this is magic while it's not. but in this special case, in fact that's what machine learning is all about.
Guess i still have that project on my github -
Not the best example here. I think is like going to a pharmacist, pretend to have an uncommon disease, willing to have a customized medicine without specify how it has to contains 😂@xalez
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rjedlin4517y@xalez Sure, but when you go to the pharmacy to get cough medicine, you also want to know that it won't interact poorly with other medications you're taking, nor will it be something you're allergic to. If the pharmacist tries to confirm these and you say, "Just give me the medicine, I don't care," it shows a miscommunication because you expect it to work without any way of knowing what exceptions you might have that need to be considered.
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People are like always cancer when it comes to things they dont know, it is not just IT. No one apperently wants to learn stuff they dont understand.
Just look how people on any discussion commenting about anything like they wrote a master thesis about every single topic. Prime example of this should be reddit.
Even here on devrant, 2 days ago i wrote about my past regret a rm -rf / followed by a sudo rm - rf / The first two comments claimed this could not be done, which is true for most distros past 2004 but i did this in fucking 2004. Instead of googeling that shit they just assume a thing and start blasting it off.
Seriously FUCK THESE LAZY ASS DICKHEADS, if they have so much knowledge they can fix their shit alone or start jerking off to their wrong belives. -
devopsy3287yman, even the people in tech might act like that with people in other fields
for example developers might ask the operations to do some magic to get the code running
or the data engineers might ask the devs for data they do not have and hard to get
of course it's not the same with non-technical people but it happens
I used to reply to some requests with "yeah sure, just let me get my wand"
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Back in my teenage , a friend of mine asked me «Can you make me a software that guesses the result of a football match ?» I said «Sure, but you have to tell me how to calculate the chances of a team»
«Yeah, use the previous performances in the league»
«Ok, but you have to tell me how to calculate the expected result using previous performances» He laughed at me and said «If i knew how to calculate chances of winning/losing, i would not need a software!»
I tried to explain it simply «Computers can execute basic operations like sums or subtractions, and they know how to follow a list of basic instructions to give you a result»
He looked me like «If computers are so stupid like you are telling me now, are we all crazy idiots trying to learn how to use stupid machines??» and stated that i obviously misunderstood the real power of a computer. I walked back home thinking how funny was my friend believing in some kind of magic inside box called pc.
Few years later, i start studying IT at university. In the free time i look for small jobs like website development, small office network setup, pcs repair.
I continue noticing people believing that pcs knows what to do and how to do it.
«You sure I lost my data ? No i didn't do a backup. You sure my pc didn't do a backup ? No i hadn't a backup software»
«Why antivirus asks me what to do with the viruses it found. It should delete them obviously! Change my antivirus, it's too stupid for my pc»
«I want more people finding my business thanks to my website. How I imagine my website ? Yeah it has to be cool and full of cool stuff»
All that boring stories leads to my final question :
is our job dealing with persons who think we are some kind of wizard, well learned about dominating the pc magic ?
Please answer no.Please.
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