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@Andi yeah, see NORMALLY I post shit like this to FB, but this seems like a better place to put manic dev-related tangents.
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I am halfway through my CS studies and I would say that it was like after the first year we got to work in groups with a more open project.
One of our teachers gives very specific tasks that nobody understand and expect us to solve it exactly as he would do it. We have to google to have a chance to produce anything, because the lectures does not help us solve the tasks. Once I found the exact same code online as he used as skeleton for the task. -
@mossesandberg But at least you're being productive. We don't do groupwork like that until capstone, supposedly. Capstone is scary as hell because it doesn't look like they train us for teamwork skills beforehand.
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TLDR but I assume you think / know that they teach too generic shit that doesn't challenge you nor create awesome devs.
I know a guy that was in this situation and he took the very smart decision to study something different and become a master programmer in that field. Now he's a brilliant embedded software and very low power electronics developer that not only designs all his hardware, but also all the software. By himself he's developed credit card size sensors that continuously measure shit and transmit it over Lora to the internet, while the battery lasts for years.
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I assume that you are in the Philippines... The system of our education is flawed. I am an IT student enrolled in university, Unlike yours, mine is different. I expect the teachers to teach like a veteran even though they teach those programming subjects for more than 10 years, i realized that they do not test their own code... Just copy pasta their code without explanation..
Out of 40 students, only 7 are capable of doing programming in my university. Mostly because they do self-study and want to be ahead to our teachers whenever theres a task... -
@Clueless I'm in Indiana, USA, lol. Yeah, same with math. They don't really teach it but somehow expect you to just know it.
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@mgagemorgan sorry for that... We all have that kind of experience in our university, its just that the companies nowadays expect that you have accomplishments and not by petty degree. For now, do what you can be proud and make a middle finger to your university.
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When I was solliciting for a job when i didnt have a degree I was told a few times:"Its impressive what you have done the last few years but even though both I (HR) and the tech lead would be interested in taking you on our boss has the final approval and he probably wont like it that I suggest him an highschool graduate."
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@Codex404 This is why we need to stop putting dumbasses in positions of power...
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@mgagemorgan but they have to start companies because nobody wants to hire them because they just have a degree :)
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@Codex404 I believe that if your company sells software, you should have a good amount of knowledge of how to program - as should your HR dpt - before you begin hiring. Then again, I'm not working for someone's IT dpt. I create and sell, not fix and mend.
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I live in Canada and feel the same... CS in uni is making me consider a tall glass o'bleach. Sooner that than have to write another bloody program in the retarded way the prof or TA's want it done. But then again, I put up with it and do it my own way out of spite, and it doesn't go too badly for me! I hate that we get very little coding time and no group projects, it was the one thing that had me excited about uni. Definitely considering dropping out, what a waste of time.
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@ArchLinux why do I feel like I've said something along those lines somewhere here before?
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First time rant here, and I'm just gonna let fucking loose because this seems to be a good place for it.
My uni can't teach programming for shit. It's the reason people sign up for the course. They want to know how to program. I'm self-taught and unhappy in college as it is.
I joined CS because I thought they'd assimilate work in the real world, which is experience I need. I realized early on that programming is like art, and I love the rush I get of something finally working right.
That said, they sucked the fun out of it. It's too structured. Everyone trying to get the same goddamn result. In the real world, we'd be working on a larger project that involved planning, design, communication, teamwork, and the ability to complete each of our own pieces of the puzzle and subsequently put them together in a project that works for the end user.
I'm paying to be a fucking sheep, people. Why do employers give a shit about a degree instead of talent? Welp, fuck society for this. You can tell me I can drop it and still get a good job, it'll just be harder. That's the fucking problem. I can't get a job if these incompetent fucking bastards will throw out my resumé the moment they see "self-taught."
If we could hire based on GitHub contributions, I think many of us here would be relatively better off. Programmers program, not socialize. We do socialize, but in our own little groups. We team up as needed. The moment the jackass in HR realizes that, the better off we'll be.
Sorry, just the way I'm seeing shit right now. I'm going through some OCD-induced depression and this might be a result of that, but I'm passed the point of giving a fuck.
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