Is there a thing like getting shadowbanned from downvoting on devrant or people just running bots that automatically upvote them if they hit negative upvotes?

Whenever I downvote anything thats at 0 upvotes (for ex. even spam that just didnt get noticed, where I cant report it on desktop), it instantly gets nulled, even on the most hidden and old rants.

I dont think theres always a registered user per every single rant out there at any given time that upvotes somebody. (often very deep down the comments)

Depending on the content/specific conditions it doesn’t always get reflected in the score right away (also depends if it has a negative score or not), but unless your downvote banned (which is uncommon), then it will be counted/submits the content for review.

@dfox so as said most of the comments are at 0, then I downvote - they appear as -1, I refresh and now they are at 0 again - as if somebody upvoted, because if I now remove my downvote, the comment will have "1" as a score.

Could you maybe check if I am actually downvote banned? though that wouldn't make much sense why the system would upvote the comment, instead of just ignoring my vote?

@JoshBent the ui always shows -1 after you downvote even though it doesn’t subtract 1. You’ll see even if you do repost or not for me it does the same thing.

And I can confirm - you are not downvote banned.

@dfox if I remove the downvote and refresh, it still says "1" (so somebody or something upvoted it).

I know that the ui immediately updates it clientside, but the server might not, but then there wouldnt be any vote and it would be at 0 after refreshing, right?

@JoshBent
I may be doing this wrong, but maybe you are confused
1. A rant has score of 0
2. You hate it, downvote, score is -1
3. You refresh
4. Something happened and the score gets 0, meaning someone has upvoted, unless your downvote is banned (and you aren't)
5. You remove your downvote
6. Score gets 1
7. You dont think this is correct

Now if you so common math, here it is

It was 0
You downvoted
It became -1
Someone upvoted, and became 0
You removed your -1, which in other words, you undo your -1, which also can be said as -(-1) = +1
So score becomes 1

Because you undid your downvote, there wasn't any -1.
And another person upvoted. So here it is.
0-1+1-(-1)=1

Now i understand
@JoshBent

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@dfox
https://github.com/devRant/devRant/...

@CozyPlanes well your first comment was you being confused, as I can do the math and never was confused by that, your github issue sounds more like it.

@dfox I am pretty certain by now that -- have no effect on any post, either theres a bug in the "weighing" system that you mentioned or theres actual shadow banning happening.

No posts that I -- ever turn out to actually impact the post score, nor the users on profile stats, even after checking later.

Why is there a -- if its not actually doing anything?

@JoshBent did you downvote with reason offensive/spam?

@dfox a mix of everything, mostly the first option "not for me"

@JoshBent that’s expected behavior - unless you vote offensive/spam we purposely don’t penalize the poster in most cases.