PHP is shit - Change My Mind

The problem is, you're set in stone that PHP just shit, so no matter what I say, you'll always say it's shit.

My valid points would be overshadowed by natural bias and hatred. Watching paint dry and grass grow would be more productive lol

Also, welcome to devRant

As @PrivateGER said in a comment earlier, try PHP 7. I really don't get why it's hated...

@r-dog 0 PHP experience, just pointing out basic psychology. As "open minded" as you try to be, it won't change the fact you've got your mind made that PHP is shit.

@jhh2450 If it has improved since I've last used it, then I'm all ears.

What makes it shit exactly? 🤔

Youre right, but perl its worse

@olback Here's a good analogy of PHP

Lets say you have a toolbox. Looks okay, standard stuff in there.

You pull out a screwdriver, and you see it’s one of those weird tri-headed things. Okay, well, that’s not very useful to you, but you guess it comes in handy sometimes.

You pull out the hammer, but to your dismay, it has the claw part on both sides. Still serviceable though, I mean, you can hit nails with the middle of the head holding it sideways.

@hch11 At least people can accept perl is bad smh

Smh? Why?!? Turns out perl it's the only language that, by some sort of sorcery, allows coding RSA in just 3 not-so-long lines. The bad part is that proofs only perl can be obfuscated SO FRIGG MUCH, and that don't cause espiritual peace. Second, sigils. Are you guys seriously trying to use the same name for variables of different type, don't you?!?? If not, stick to explicit typing!

@rdog Bullshit. PHP7 has many great functions and use cases. It performs great in terms of speed and really eases DB intensive actions.

Third: $_
Im sure i don't even have to say what's wrong with that.

You can hate PHP no harm but don't say that it's shit. At some point of time it was really popular and so many legacy systems still had PHP. For god sakes devRant runs on PHP so it's not outdated and it's popular also.
I never had any interaction with PHP but I trust dfox that they must have chosen best possible

It's no more shit than JS is. And in a lot of ways it's the complete opposite of shit.

But if someone's hands grow from the ass, touching any language will make that language shit.

@olback because its only an OK language if you think it is 2002 now and that the competiton still only consists of VB and Perl.

Because glaring bugs have been left in the standard library to preserve backwards compatibilty despite compatibilty being broken due to trivial changes in 7 anyway ?

Because despite its improvements it is still a decade behind the pack. ?

If you want a stable language with a mature ecosystem you have Java (yuck but atleast it does its job)

If you want a "modern:ish" language with a mature ecosystem you have a crapton of good languages running on both .Net and the JVM.

If you want rapid development in a dynamic language you have python or even javascript (which while wonky is at least internally consistent)

And if you want something modern there are solid web frameworks for languages like swift and go as well.

There just isn't much reason for PHP to exist anymore.

Maybe PHP8 will change my mind, but it needs to atleast get unicode right.

I believe the sign in this image originally said something like, "KC barbecue is better than Texas barbecue. Change my mind."

It is an impossible task.

Also, perl rules on high.

Wat?! Haven't viewed my comments? @bahua

All languages suck.

Some just *coughsuckmorethanothers*

phpsadness.com

Have you seen Ruby? That my friend, is shit.

Please don't change your mind.

@bahua NC BBQ >

🤷🤷

@jhh2450 LOL you burned the OP too much mate

@Devnergy It's true. We talked about this in my political science class.

We were discussing how people have predetermined bias towards something (in the context of the political science class, it's laws) and no matter what they do, they're going to constantly reinforce that bias. So no matter the valid logic we use to try and persuade him, it's set in stone that PHP is shit.

Let's look at it another way. So... Why *do* you hate PHP?

@py2js it can still be shit and popular at the same time

@inaba I have no experience with PHP, my comment was with general thought of hating a language

@py2js well don't. People who don't like php don't like it not because it's cool or popular (or whatever other ways php devs are in denial about it) bit they dislike it because they've had the displeasure of trying it together with a more sane language

@FuzzyMyztiq Give me reasons for that before insulting my favorite scripting language.

@FuzzyMyztiq And again, give me reasons before insulting my favorite scripting language.
The syntax is pure sugar.

Srsly? @FuzzyMyztiq

@PrivateGER I gave you my reasons. I found it hard to decipher with all it's magic. Wasn't intuitive. And I hated it. Still hate it to this day.

Some sort of crazy guy nicknamed 'why the lucky stiff' will change your mind.

Just i think so.

@FuzzyMyztiq

@FuzzyMyztiq You being too incompetent to use a simple scripting language still isn't a single argument.

@PrivateGER Ruby can die a slow death and I want to watch. It's unreasonable hate and guess what, I'm ok with it.

@FuzzyMyztiq You obviously haven't got a single argument to name, so you officially lost this debate. Please leave.

Thats what he implicitly said, anyway
@PrivateGER

@PrivateGER Nope. I hate it.

*sigh*

You look jaded. Wanna coffe? Tea? Maybe soda?@PrivateGER

@hch11 I'd gladly take a soda.