everyone knows the boss 😁😏

Wait, you can install more ram in a Mac?
You mean those aluminum blocks?
How?

@forkbomber begin with opening screws with a special Apple screwdriver kit 😂

Someone really hates it when I talk about Macs.
What's the downvote for? :')

@forkbomber lol...Apple fans boys watching you 😅

@puneet at least one that I know :')

@forkbomber so your friend did this..who needs an enemy then 👍🏽😁

@puneet no, just one person here that I know off who downvotes all my anti Mac posts :')

and on the contrary mac is used in large number by developers. once Linus himself mentioned that he runs custom linux on mac hardware. I am not sure abt his current hardware tough.

We run Macs as well. I don't mind them. They're damn pricey though, that's for sure. We pay ~$3000 a piece for ours, with i7's and 16gb of RAM

I know the guy who does these cartoons :D

@ElbowDeepInElmo Then use hackintosh, way cheaper: http://www.tonymacx86.com

False. Install Linux, configure VIM, configure mouse, write a script that connects your Bluetooth keyboard to your pc, get a crash, don't sleep entire night to configure your video card, start working then, after 5 minutes your mouse isn't working. Buy a mac an trash Linux.

@shasha that's not exactly how Linux works..
But then again, there are very few computers that are sold with native Linux.

Can't you just download more ram?

@nigel12790 unfortunately no, because u r not uploading any

I use a 2012 McBook Pro for iOS development- no additional Ram - runs for months at a time. Damn thing Rocks!!!

linux: buy a laptop -> deal with EFI and "Secure" Boot 😛

How exactly do you "buy a Linux laptop"?

@forkbomber well, it is. I worked with Linux for more than 3 years professionally and still using it as personal OS. I also have Sys Admin background and Cisco CCNA certification. I programmed in C with forks and pthreads and technically I'm a Linux dev (Android Engineer actually). I know no Desktop Linux that saves me time or headache. If I have to code for every single small task that Windows or Mac does in a click it is shit. I'm sorry, but there is no easy to use Desktop Linux. The only Linux I like is Android and it's commercially backed.

Ubuntu is ugly and its UI is not flexible enough. It has swapping problems all the time. I have to go to rules file to just plug a phone... What? Can't that be done by the system itself? Why it is so manual? Computers are supposed to do automatically recurring jobs for us. Otherwise it's nonsense.

@shasha wow, 3 years of Linux experience? You're a real hero :o
Really thought, with a few weeks/months of experience, you would have no issues, unless you're one of the people that can only use out of the box software.
A simple command installs 90% of the things you need, and your previous examples were just ridiculously farfetched.

@shasha oh and personally?
I don't want my computer to do a single thing I didn't ask, so that last part bothers me even more.
If you want a system like that, stick to Windows.

@forkbomber yeah, right. I think it's the other way around. Have you ever used it for real projects?

I said 3 years of professional experience, not how long I'm using it. I'm using it more than 10 years. And yes, I know how to use different package managers. I know what is PAM and NSS, I know much more about Linux that you can imagine. That's why I'm thinking like that.

All this bullshit about "running what you want and not what the machine wants" it's your delusion. Unless you check every line of code and compile it yourself it's not gonna happen. Moreover, you should also be sure that your chips are engineered the right way and without back doors.

So, all this hype about "how cool is Linux" is just an illusion. If we're talking about real system, not about kernel, there is still no comparable Linux to Mac. There is no Linux that just does it's job and let's you do yours. There is no good Desktop Linux that you can just use without hassle.

@shasha I have 500 Linux servers at work that I need to keep up and running with tomcat applications.
Among others.
Yes, I've used Linux professionally. :)

@shasha but maybe you're right, if it's about desktop.
Since there are n² Linux flavours, you might have had some bad luck.
I've had that too. And I just fixed them.
A friend of mine had her Mac update 3 days ago, where Mac suddenly stopped recognizing her printer. So the old driver didn't work anymore.
You precious OS is just as bad as any, but you fanbois don't want to hear that.

@forkbomber there is no OS without bugs or that is perfect. I'm not a Mac fan, I just consider it's usability superior to any other system.

You're right, there are many different Linux distros. Still, the best Linux is Ubuntu. I've tried somewhere around 20. Then I decided that I need something that just works and I don't have time to waste.

I have to agree that Linux is a good server but desktop? No. It should save you time.

@shasha my desktop is a fully updated windows 10, at this point it's still good enough for me.

Why would I need to install more ram? My 4GB was more than enough for many years. (2011 model) - recently upgraded to 16GB because.. why not 😅

Upgrading took 2 minutes and required screwdrivers we had at home (not some special ones)