I don't know how to really put this but a professor at my university thinks adding a space in java program will help to execute code successfully .I am rethinking over my decision to join university

Yes Please!!

In university I learned how to program and learned modern best practices... Said no one ever.

UCLA just integrated version control (github) into their curriculum 2 years ago...

@champion01 are you from UCLA if(true) how is it ?

@rookiepatty no I'm not with ucla. But I did meet a lot of ucla CS students at local meetups and other programming events. I taught myself programming and am passionate about it.

From my take on the students at ucla, either there not that smart, or the curriculum is bad. I think it's the curriculum.

Ucla has a lot of resources. But IMO your much better off teaching yourself or finding your own internships and experience.

@champion01 I started coding in University, and I would say just that! Am I lucky or too easily pleased?

Almost every college graduate I interview can explain how databases work in the context of students, classes, teachers, etc... when I ask them to come up with a design for cars (anything really) they fall apart.

college is broken.

@lreading agreed. They can talk therioes, but can't do simple fizz buzz (example)

@Cuoma lol your just aware and smarter than your classmates. That's why you'll be successful cuz you recognize that its lackluster education and will seek your own learning!

@champion01 @Ireading I am overwhelmed by finding so much like minded people 😭😢 even I thing college is stupid but I can't avoid it for some reason.

@rookiepatty college is dumb, but unfortunatly HR at companies really like seeing it.

So do your time, but don't rely on college to build your skills

@champion01 that's what I am really building for myself right now so. I can them I didn't wasted 3 years of my life. But I strongly believe sites like team tree house ,coursera and Udacity will take over this flawed system

@rookiepatty dude I couldn't agree more. I practically lived on team treehouse (11,000 points :D) and udemy is awesome too.

Your right on track! And also when you do those projects (udemy), you can add it to your portfolio for employers

@champion01 at least you learn something from them.

@rookiepatty and it's actually useful 😂

@rookiepatty Full disclosure: I didn't finish college and it hurts my chances of finding a job. Of course, some places don't care, but if you don't finish school, you're immediately cutting yourself off from other opportunities.

You're doing well though, never be afraid to question things, and just remember that a lot of the real learning may happen outside of the classroom. :)

@lreading I feel like a few years ago, this was 100% the case. Nowadays though, in my experience, some companies would rather hire a dev with a couple years experience (working at reputable companies, of course) than a CS or SE major straight outta college with 0 years real-world experience. At the universities around here, CS majors don't even begin to code in school until their senior year or so. I know when we're interviewing for a new dev, we look for experience more than we look at degrees. Of course, having a degree is always a good thing, but I think within our industry, we're slowly but surely moving more towards an experienced-based job market, as opposed to a degree-based one :)

@ElbowDeepInElmo Agreed! I still get places that turn me down because I don't have a degree though, even with years of real world experience.

My point was that if you're already invested, i think it's worth it to see it through because there are still places that value the piece of paper over actual skills.

Amazon considers 3 years of experience to be equivalent to 1 year of college... Should be the opposite IMO.

@lreading For sure! As ridiculous as the degree standard is in comparison to real world experience, it's always good to cover all your bases!