What our company provides to their devs

someone should tell companies that with better computers, their devs can work more efficiently

holy crap, add more ram secretly.
8gb is a minimum today.

wow tell those cheap bastards that a 2.5ghz quad core with 8gb of ram is only $700

please tell me that you are developing on a server and not this

That's horrific! Dev machines should be some of the best in the company if they want to survive. The time spent waiting on progress bars alone is costing them a fortune! 😮

There's an idea. Use a stopwatch to calculate your idle time in a day waiting for that relic to function then put it to them that a faster machine pays for itself in X working days.

Are you Zuul the gatekeeper of Gozer?

Wow. Not even a domain!!

Actually, that box, specification-wise, is better than my computer. But, on the other side, I don't use Windows. ;)

What kind of dev are you doing?

Spec doesnt look bad to me to be honest.

Main thing is the RAM, and 4Gb is better than 2Gb :-)

Ask, what's the worst that could happen?

If they don't know you need it they aren't going to do anything and 16 GB of RAM is pocket change.

the pic tells nothing, im a front end dev, we have macbook airs, 1,5ghz dual i5 with 4gb ram and im running ps on it, im not telling you its ideal, but it gets the shit done,

the bigger problem is that mothafuckin osx is swapping the whole mothafuckin ssd, so if i dont restart in at least every two days, all the free space is gone and it just stop responding and you must restart

I wouldn't work on less than 3 monitors.... an i7 and 16gb of ram and ssd drive for os and apps..edit and that's for browsing stack overflow

Are you a web dev?
dont ask too much if you are. its enough

@sandiodm Arg, sorry I reported your comment when I meant to reply. Please disregard.

I no longer feel bad that my employer won't upgrade our HP Zbooks to Surface Books.

A moment for our comrades in Hell.

I'd kill for win 7 right now.....we are still on xp and the machines were shipped with 7, and downgraded to xp by our "IT".

@phantomDuckling your IT downgraded you to an OS which doesn't recieve security patches anymore?

@phantomDuckling that's when you secretly bring another boot drive and install Windows 7 with the key on the side of the box. IT coming? Boot into Windows XP. Doing some actual work? Boot into Windows 7/Linux. Extra boot drives are fantastic.

@crazyidiot Lose your job for blatant disregard of company IT policy? Not so fantastic.

@drRoss unless the pay is otherworldly, nobody should be forced to deal with XP today. And that'd be something I would certainly be willing to take higher up the food chain than IT.

@crazyidiot You're missing the point. They're obviously on XP for a reason.

And in 2016 that reason is nil unless it's an XP box in the corner for print jobs or one that's completely cut off from all network activity, and that shouldn't be a developer issue. I've worked with several large companies for various reasons and even the archaic sloth-like companies are on Windows 7 now. XP is 15 years old. If your corporate software is still on XP, I see that as a failure of both the company developers AND IT. There's simply no reason. Reasons for having XP today? Laziness.

I had to buy my own pc... Not to mention if I'm away from my desk for more than 2 days, someone else will occupy it.

I encrypted the hdd and left a sticky note on the pc that it contains important documents is what keeping then from taking the pc too.

@crazyidiot You don't know the company, you don't know how they work. We all know XP has been out of support for some time now, but there are companies out there running mainframes the size of my house just for legacy accounting software because it's too expensive for them to change systems.

I'm not disagreeing with you that running XP is a bad idea, I'm disagreeing that you should side step company policy because it could result in the termination of your employment. You should not give advice on here that encourages people to put their jobs at risk, it's exceedingly irresponsible.

@crazyidiot Also the Windows Xp might not be officially receiving any updates using the Microsoft website but for the very reason @drRoss mentioned there are some companies that have entered into an agreement with the Microsoft to have them furnish them with security updates since their mainframe and their proprietary software will cost waaaay more to upgrade to the new OS line.

@drRoss 100% Correct

Why do people care about which version of windows they're on?

Are you actually developing apps that run on Windows?

Or...?

Not sure I can tell the difference between windows server 2003, xp, win 7. All looks like windows to me...

(They all run emacs fine)

C'mon devs, it's more than enough ... maybe they only deal with web applications .. the only thing that matters for us is INTERNET connection bandwidth they provide 😉

@phantomDuckling holy shit.

Been there

Kill it with fire.

@Jovial good luck writing a PHP 7 or ASP.NET 4.6 website with XP. Neither support it.