I fucking hate React.

Ohh and I especially hate WordPress implementation of said abomination in their Gutenberg editor.

Made a website in 1 week, with 94% SEO score in Google Lighthouse, all in Gatsby, React and Typescript. And it also has automatic asset compression and progressive loading for pictures without having to write any code for it.

It's not the tools. It's the guy using them.

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@Jilano Nope. Wordpress does not have hot reload (watch changes without need for reloading page), and needs a server. We also have some info we want to get from an API at build time, and auto generated robots.txt and sitemap. And also some cool CSS effects

@cmarshall10450 🤮

I can't stand Gutenberg.

@bartmr that's cool. But time taken to build a project is not the only measure to declare a framework or library the best. I personally love react. I dislike redux though. Seeing my peers try to fit it into every project is what made me dislike it even more.

Many folks don't feel comfortable with react. Completely possible that it might go away with practice. I suspect OP is at that stage right now. So you might want to discount the personal attack there.

On a side note, check out sveltejs. You might like it.

@terriblecoder True. I just get a little bit mad that people still write code using old tools and then rant about not being able to adapt to stuff. Because someone is going to maintain that stuff. That's why I completely decided I would never get back to maintaining projects.

@terriblecoder Also Svelte does not have hot reload. I want to be in a call with a client and be able to show front-end changes without having to wait. Like a designer

@bartmr true. I don't miss hot reload too much. But most folks I know do. The community is still working on those parts. It's definitely not even close to being as mature as react. But I look forward to the day the community becomes larger

@terriblecoder Anything that has a plus is good for me. That is why I only jump ships when something is already stable and has enough tooling.

Like the Flow vs Typescript thing