My god i hate so much reactjs... And will never understand how a normal brain could write such a russian doll code.
But then, i met flutter, god i will puke.

Please elaborate.

Regards, developer that dislikes react and thought of giving flutter a chance

@ReverendLovejoy it is about the logic required to code in those languages.
U will, in a very early stage face very deep deeep deep nested elements. And this is soon or later be a mess to maintain.

It require a level of concentration so high that it is exhausting especially on a big project.

Those are really things that may make u hate programming.
If u wanna do android do java ! Very mature and a ton of codebase.

@devapsarl hm. Sounds like react. I was actually thinking of ditching native Android in favour of flutter. Maybe I shouldn't ?🤔

@ReverendLovejoy definitely not.
Not only because of uglyness of flutter, but because of the flutter young age.
I dev android native since 2010 and many many details are brought to u by third parties libraries that are very mature and dont have similar in flutter.
There is also many other problems, like file size and features.
I find in fact no reason to go to flutter. Like not only one !

How about kotlin native?

@volttide it is great, it will enable swift ios developpers to start dev on android (kotlin is very close to swift)
But still, the language is young and and codebase is still low. Maybe in 1 or 2 years ill give it a try.

"Russian doll code", right. Just have a logical code structure and it'll make perfect sense, it's honestly not that hard.

@eliad91 it is not suitable for agile developement.
Of course ull start with a logical three....
Then, client ask for a feature that require a variable to propagate through all the damn three...
Imagine , u must update all ur components or try using redux stuff and handle other callbacks to detect data change... This this, in all layers.

Duuuuude come on !

@devapsarl I think these are non-issue really. You have state management libraries, just like Redux (which is not hard to learn and implement) which are made to tackle this very issue. Hell, go ahead and use the built-in Context API and you'll achieve the same result.

Seriously though, React wouldn't be an industry standard if these were real issues now in 2019.

@eliad91 yeah i know redux context consumers and pubsub stuff, but i know also many other front end framework, like angular and service injector wher i do the same output with 10% of headache.