Can frontent devs please stop abusing <br> for vertical spacing please?!
Thank you.

Can frontend devs stop abusing frontend please?

Can backend devs stop being toxic?

@alexbrooklyn Nope. That's because the average frontend dev is a completely incompetent moron who doesn't even grasp the basics of his trade.

@Fast-Nop ouch

@theuser As witnessed by the sad state of the average website. And that's without counting bloated tracking and ads because that's forced upon the devs by marketing.

The average frontend dev fails already at writing valid HTML, let alone semantic HTML. HTML is already too hard for these fuckheads.

Can the backend dev still abuse this shit though? 🤔

@sladuled if they want to take the insults with us, why not?

Can backend devs please start documenting their endpoints please?!

Thank you.

@Fast-Nop it's easier to hide the dirt when your code is behind a server, isn't it? 🙂

Can we just STOP this stupid fight please?

Backends: you can't even do a vertical centering, so STFU!
Frontends: you don't even know what a left join is, so STFU!

Thank you

@react-guy and here is me, knowing how to do both of them and still suck at both sides.

@react-guy Both ends can be a real shitshow, although frontend more so because of how fast the web is evolving and the increasing need for resources that are typically untrained.

Also, some backend devs does indeed need to unmount their stallions at times.

@react-guy Except if shit is dog slow because every page view involves hundreds of useless DB lookups stemming from a completely fucked up architecture, compression isn't enabled, no caching headers set, and shit is running on http/1.

But this rant is about frontend, and frontend has such a low entry barrier that even my neighbour's dog could apply AND would be hired.

Front end... Back end... They are both usable at the end of the day.

@Fast-Nop You're really into the ouchies aren't you

@Fast-Nop I forgot how "good" you are at the "it's not our fault it's yours" thing.

If you're not in the field your criticizing, don't insult people. You probably don't know half of the problems they are solving.

Blame the product, not the people, even less a category of people. If you do, you're basically being an a**h*le.

@react-guy its the aforementioned stallion thing.

@react-guy People who don't even know the simplest basics of their trade just are stupid fuckheads, and that's the majority of FE devs. There's no other dev domain that has that many low-lives.

I don't give a shit about your personal FE sensitivity. If you feel addressed, there's probably good reason.

@Fast-Nop I'm lead full stack dev so not touched at all.
I just like messing with your a**h*leness and see how you react (most often with more a**h*leness)

Did a front end hurt you when you were young? 😁

@react-guy I call a spade for a spade and idiots for idiots.

Oh, and when Domino's lost in court last year, that was over their inaccessible piece of trash website. Yeah right, these dumbass frontend idiots were so incompetent that they dragged their employer into court. That's what happens if you are tolerant to idiots.

@Fast-Nop I don't claim to know anybody, but you are pretty much like a shouty granny wearing horse blinders, standing glued on top of the highest possible mountain. Your opinions have been cemented long ago and trying to argue (i.e maybe seeing things different) is frugal, so lets not bother.

@theuser Of course I rant about the idiots who ruin the web. Why the fuck do you think this is called revRANT?

Also, my opinions are cemented because they're technically right and (unfortunately) confirmed every time I browse the web.

@Fast-Nop "Pfff! Just because I use '!important' on every line doesn't mean I'm a bad dev!"

Will the real slim shady please stand up?

Imagine building an awesome frontend like devrant so that some moron who can't even exit zoom to start abusing your craft. Fuck y'all

@sariel underrated comment.

@sladuled The backend dev can only abuse his shit to a point, If it's bad enough the frontend dev can't work at all

@melezorus34 Jack of all trades LMAO

@ParkCity What if it's already bad enough?? So the backend dev needs to shit some more over it? //asking for a friend 🤣🤣🤣😇

Wow, my rant has stirred up some serious comments 😄🍿

When Backends will be able to follow the specs they are writing, they will have the right to complain.

In the meantime, !important everywhere

@react-guy I assume you're controlling the HTML structure as a front-end dev. Why would it in this case be necessary to abuse !important? 😄

@PonySlaystation My guess is "it doesn't fucking work unless I use !important" and so that becomes the rabbit hole pattern.

@theuser Which happens a lot if stupid shit like Bootstrap is used.

@Fast-Nop Indeed, nowadays Bootstrap and the likes is a stupid choice unless you really need to deliver quickly or you wanna do a prototype. Otherwise the overhead is just too awful.

@theuser The whole idea of Bootstrap is bad because it litters the markup with presentional classes. This is totally missing the point of HTML vs. CSS and basically the mindset of 1990s' HTML3 era. It's shocking that shit like this is in use in 2020.

I know people who use <p><p><p> to make spaces. So, next time you see a <br> used as space, be thankful.

@sladuled both of us do what we must