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Flygger19798yNope, neither have I – it would require enough loss of sanity to actually switch first ;)
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antons7848y@Flygger money* if you are not a windows programmer there really isn't a reason you shouldn't switch except for paying way too much (the experience is kinda worth it tho..!)
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Flygger19798yAssumptions, @antons...
- "Not Mac" doesn't have to be Windows
- Preference doesn't make you efficient
- Tooling does more than OS
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@Flygger People who oppose using a Mac are often times those who have never given Apple a chance in the first place. Once you go Mac, you'll never go back.
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Flygger19798y@thecritic I would tend to disagree, but that will void any discussion, as it would be opinion based
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@Flygger Tell me what you think makes your OS better than OS X. I have worked with all major OSs out there and in terms of stability, flexibility, ease of use and program support OS X has been by far the best.
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biscuit19098yI have. POS was binned when I got back from travelling.
It was 20 years ago, but they still have everything in the wrong place, so they obviously didn't read the letter I sent them. -
tahnik387588y@thecritic OS X is indeed more stable than all other OS.
But how is it more flexible when Windows can run on millions of different hardware and configurations?
Ease of use is again personal preference. I have windows for ages and I find it more comfortable than Mac.
Program support? I am pretty sure Windows supports far for programs than OS X.
To answer your question what makes my OS windows better than OS X, is also based on preferences. Because I develop Java, C++, Node and Mobile apps. For all of them, Windows does the job perfectly fine.
At the same time I can customize my PC components and Windows supports that. I can also play some high end games when I am tired of programming and need some entertainment.
Now your need and preference might be completely different. So saying "Your OS is not better than mine" is a bit nonsensical don't you think? -
Flygger19798y@thecritic ...and that's part of the point; I wouldn't say one is better, I would say that one is better at a specific task, job, or workflow or that you're more used to a system or setup so it's easier for you to do your work more efficiently using exactly that...
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@tahnik I agree with most of what you've said. It's probably not more flexible I agree. I also agree on program support with you. However, I haven't encountered a single application in the last 5 years that wasn't also supported on Mac and if there was no support there always is at least an equally good alternative. Development on the Mac is in no way worse than on Windows so I wouldn't consider Windows having better cards there.
Customisation of PC components:
I don't exactly know what you are referring to, but if you mean hardware support you have customisation options for the Mac Pro for example (which I personally own).
Gaming: Many people don't know that you can run multiple OSs on a Mac via bootcamp, so if you have a game/program that's only supported on Windows you have the ability to run a full version of Windows/[Whatever OS] as well. You cannot however run OS X on a Windows machine afaik. -
@tahnik Of course it's down to preference, I have seen both worlds and it annoys me that people who have never used a Mac before are sure of themselves that their platform is the better one. I like the aesthetics of Apple products, I really like the OS, it's well structured, unix based and just a pleasure to work with. I also like the apps better in general. Also, I'm a mobile app developer so a Mac is required to develop iOS applications (you cannot do that on a Windows machine). However, you can also develop Android applications on a Mac. The fact that it's similar to Linux (which most of my production servers run) makes it easier to work in a server environment. It's just small things really but those small things quickly add up to a point where I would prefer using a Mac over any other platform.
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antons7848y@Flygger in my experience preference helps with productivity. And as far as macOS goes: a whole lot is solely written for UNIX based systems (and sometimes ported to windows later) but usually has a lot of hickups. For example node or docker, works terrible on windows. But yes Linux is an alternative. It's just a lot more complicated getting stuff to work as you want it. (Even if you are a pro it's more work than on either windows or mac)
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Flygger19798y@antons Of course using what you prefer makes you like what you do, but it may not be more than perceived productivity.
My experiences with Mac is mainly that things work until they don't and then it's terribly difficult to fix, whereas Windows actually doesn't really break as much as people say but is much easier to fix if it happens.
As for node, as a mainly web frontend developer, I have yet to have a single OS related issue with it. Haven't had reason to meddle with Docker yet, but it's pretty much designed for the way another OS handles things, so if it does anything right it would be quite an accomplishment, mainly from the porters and the OS...
Also, speaking of Le Web, Safari is really the most amazing browser ever to be built; it's like they switched around the issue tracker to implement all reported bugs instead of fixing anything... -
@Flygger I shit you not I have never experienced any problems that I would have had in Windows way back when ( I haven't used Windows since Win7, so not sure about the developments ever since). I use node and docker on a regular basis and never had issues with those whatsoever. I don't want to push Apple stuff onto anybody, it's just a warm recommendation. Once you've tried it -- and only then -- are you entitled to give off judgements as to which is the better OS imho.
Have you ever had that deep, deep depressing moment where you just thought to yourself: "Man, why did I switch to Mac" ?
Yeah, me neither.
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