All the noob jokes about "tee hee I write such bad code exdee" fucking drive me nuts.

There are absolutely such things as good codebases, in any language. By posting "tee hee funny relatable" "memes" about your shitass code you just make yourself look like a fucking idiot who excuses poor quality with "haha so relatable!" bullshit excuses.

Thank you for being the literal cancer of the industry, oversaturating the markets and making all of our managers think we're fucking idiot babies that have to be wrangled like cats in order to get a single feature out the door, devoid of rational thought or a modicum of expertise.

Fuck you. You're the problem. Be better or find another profession where slacking off is acceptable.

Indeed. It's infuriating how we're the only industry that every failed musician, graphic designer and photographer thinks, "hey I can do that," and then for whatever insane reason actually get the opportunity. It's equal parts insulting and erosive.

No one would let them design a chip or parts for an airplane, but software? Sure why the fuck not, my kid can do that. 🙄

IMO depends.

Meme stuff is ... I think you can't take that very seriously. I enjoy those memes and talk about how writing shitty code is ok. .. if you're learning.

Within the context of progressing, learning, refactoring / doing better.

I think the "OMG the n00bs" shit is it's own nasty / crappy ass meme too.....

Like example, we had a complaint on here about a n00b writing some crap authentication system.

Like ... bro who thinks giving a n00b a security type thing like writing an authentication system?!?!? Whose fault is that?

Tbh the thing that bothers me more are some kind of jokes. Take for instance the semicolon ones... How are they still a thing? If you open any modern ide you have the line number, red highlighting, a text saying that a semicolon is expected and yet... "Eheh missing a semicolon somewhere in the code I am relatable" or like... "Eheh Fixed 1 error 99 new errors" when? When does it EVER happen? A special mention to my fam: the "I know how to fix bug on line x", which contributes everyday blurring the line between syntax error and bug, making us all look like kids instead of explaining the point of "it's a bug, we have no clue why it happens, I can't give you an estimation, could take a second, a year or us contacting who wrote the language and hope they fix a bug THEY have."
And yes, the last case really happens, when I was in school there was this super weird bug where if you added a comment with 3 letters or more before the code line it worked perfectly, if you removed it, it broke. C#??

The semicolon jokes have always annoyed me. If you're coding in absolutely any editor other than Notepad, it'll catch those missing semicolons easily.

@EmberQuill "but IDEs are for noobs!"

I find that development is much less tolerant to fuckups than other industries that I have worked in because one letter can break everything. You can't be that bad if your code works.

@JustThat Agreed. No, not "anyone can code". *Some people* can code. This isn't some fallback career that happens to pay well. That just makes it a bubble, and the people who have the patience and energy to make it their main career from the get-go suffer from it now. And when it pops, we'll be there to pick up the pieces.

Cool.

@SortOfTested Exactly. If we were to make such jokes in other engineering fields (e.g. aeronautics), we'd get fired immediately and I would imagine (hope) there'd be investigations taking place.

The industry is a massive clown car at this point.

@EmberQuill That just alerted me to everyone who uses vscode with no sane plugins. No idea how that method of working has got so popular.

You guys forget thay all code is bad, but is does not depend on who wrote kt but who is reading it.

This is why thes jokes are relatable, there is a thing called self-deprecating humor, and it is likeable and funny.

@mundo03

> all code is bad

I reject that premise.

@junon facts don't care about your feelings :p

@mundo03 You've failed to prove that it's fact.

@JustThat exactly

@junon that is the funny thing about facts, they are true irregardless of proof.
Maybe you are thinking in theories or thesis.

@JustThat damn right, sometimes the beholder is future yourself

@mundo03 ... You're trying to sound smart and it's not working.

Also irregardless isn't a word.

@junon "It may not be a word that you like, or a word that you would use in a term paper, but irregardless certainly is a word. It has been in use for well over 200 years, employed by a large number of people across a wide geographic range and with a consistent meaning. That is why we, and well-nigh every other dictionary of modern English, define this word. Remember that a definition is not an endorsement of a word’s use" Merriam-Webster

I admit kt ks a translation from spanish though, my B.
Also, I am not trying anything, but thanks!