But why would anyone say that about their own product? 😶

Because WordPress.com blogs are very end-user friendly. Compared to any other blogging platform I've used it's the easiest.

Isn't WP mostly only a nightmare when it's a custom server install for a site that a dev needs to work and look some specific way?

@corscheid I agree with you and in this context, in their own definition, botpress is "An open-source ecosystem *for developers * to create, manage and extend bots" (the asterisks part is actually highlighted in their website). And no developer would want their code base to be intersected with "WordPress".

@varundey then I have no idea whatsoever. 😂 I have not met a single web dev who likes WordPress, especially under the hood.

Yet WordPress sites are still very commonly found.

@corscheid yep. That is because WordPress is the best alternative if your use case requires just putting up the website and you don't want to invest in maintaining it for the long run. That would make sense if their bot could be that easily made by non devs

Wordpress will rule the world and ...js...js everywhere :D

Wordpress Developing is a Nightmare .
Almost Nobody like it

To filter in the right customers.

@nicbovee and what if the customers are devs?

@varundey maybe the person who has the power to say "yes" to this tool isn't a dev. Maybe they were trying to target some executive with the purchasing power to sign up and let the dev team take it from there.

Also worth noting on the site how even though they use terms like "by devs, for devs" and phrases of that nature, they still talk about how their product is enabling "less experienced" developers to create bots. I'm really new as a "developer" but I've noticed a spectrum of skill levels that exists beyond the semantics of what a developer actually is or does. I think on one side of the spectrum you have people who do very light coding occasional modifications, and on the other side you've got people who're extremely good in their specific field. I think it's clear that this tool is trying to cater to the former of the two spectrums. Now, if you want to go into the whole "who is and isn't a developer" conversation, that's a completely different can of worms.

Great topic glad you posted and sorry for taking a while to respond.