We work with about 7 developers at this company with 80 somewhat websites in production.

We edit changes directly trough FTP and we use ctrl+z as version control...

(yes since i started working here I've been demanding git, I'm spearheading it and we are getting there slowly)

How can they even deem themselves to be developers if version control is foreign to their knowledge?

hah, reminds me of when i was one of 2 devs maintaining about 40 sites, using the same method, editing via FTP and "version controlling" via ctrl+z, or for more "advanced" cases, it was "copy the file you're going to edit, add a route based on get param leading to the copy, edit the copy, when you're sure it works, delete the original, rename copy to original name" XD

admittedly, all the sites were running the same system, it was during the "discound coupon site" boom... but also every site's code was permanently drifting further and further away from the original codebase based on the different changes every customer was requesting all the time.

@fiftyhz yep that’s often the sad truth: as long as it works… (good thing they don’t realize the work done by 8 people today could probably be done by 4 people in the same amount of time with proper tools. Good thing we computer people are good at fooling them into thinking it can’t be done any other way)